Is Gay Marriage Considered a Sin?

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Is Gay Marriage Considered a Sin?

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Is same sex marriage a sin?
If so, where does the Bible say this?
Further, why is it a sin?
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Miles wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:31 am Considering how much human activity god has come down on, I think that if he was against homosexuality he would certainly have said so by now.
But He did/does apparently. He lumps them right in there with thieves:

"Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Cor. 6
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Re: Is Gay Marriage Considered a Sin?

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POI wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:14 pm
Miles wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:33 pm
POI wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:01 pm
Miles wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:56 pm Got this from a fundamentalist Christian web site.

While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage.
source

Which is good enough for me.

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In that source, it states: "Gay marriage/same-sex marriage is a perversion of the institution of marriage and an offense to the God who created marriage."

Thus, it sounds like you would answer as the following:

Is same sex marriage a sin? yes
If so, where does the Bible say this? It does not say directly, I assume so based upon what God says about adjacent subject matter.
Further, why is it a sin? It offends god because this is not god's intended contract.

Are the above answers in red acceptable? If not, feel free to adjust where need-be...
Actually, the point of posting the quote was to show that even Bible Thumpers acknowledge that the Bible does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. That and no more. However, your answers are in keeping with the reasoning of homophobic Christians who dearly need to believe same sex marriage is a sin, despite the Bible remaining silent on the subject. For one thing, they pretend there's no difference between homosexuals who engage in sex, who their god of love and compassion clearly detests, and those homosexuals who stay chaste, who god completely ignores. BUT "Throw 'em all into the same pot. They all boil up the same anyway." the homophobic Christians cry. "Who needs people who aren't like us, anyway!


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So the God of the Bible has no opinion on the matter then?
Bible says:

...‘You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestible...
Lev. 18:20-24

I think that is why there was no need to say anything about gay marriage.

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1213 wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:36 am
POI wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:14 pm
Miles wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:33 pm
POI wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:01 pm
Miles wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:56 pm Got this from a fundamentalist Christian web site.

While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage.
source

Which is good enough for me.

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In that source, it states: "Gay marriage/same-sex marriage is a perversion of the institution of marriage and an offense to the God who created marriage."

Thus, it sounds like you would answer as the following:

Is same sex marriage a sin? yes
If so, where does the Bible say this? It does not say directly, I assume so based upon what God says about adjacent subject matter.
Further, why is it a sin? It offends god because this is not god's intended contract.

Are the above answers in red acceptable? If not, feel free to adjust where need-be...
Actually, the point of posting the quote was to show that even Bible Thumpers acknowledge that the Bible does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. That and no more. However, your answers are in keeping with the reasoning of homophobic Christians who dearly need to believe same sex marriage is a sin, despite the Bible remaining silent on the subject. For one thing, they pretend there's no difference between homosexuals who engage in sex, who their god of love and compassion clearly detests, and those homosexuals who stay chaste, who god completely ignores. BUT "Throw 'em all into the same pot. They all boil up the same anyway." the homophobic Christians cry. "Who needs people who aren't like us, anyway!


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So the God of the Bible has no opinion on the matter then?
Bible says:

...‘You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestible...
Lev. 18:20-24

I think that is why there was no need to say anything about gay marriage.
Okay. I agree. So I now fast forward to the third question from the OP.

Why is same sex marriage a sin?
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POI wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:51 am
Miles wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:31 am Considering how much human activity god has come down on, I think that if he was against homosexuality he would certainly have said so by now.
But He did/does apparently. He lumps them right in there with thieves:

"Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Cor. 6
YES, for sure god detests men who practice homosexuality, but he doesn't say a thing about those homosexuals who don't practice homosexuality. Homosexuality simply being:

noun: homosexuality; plural noun: homosexualities
the quality or characteristic of being sexually attracted solely to people of one's own sex.
source: Oxford Languages Dictionary

POINT BEING: Being a homosexual and practicing homosexuality are two very different things.



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Miles wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:33 pm
POI wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:01 pm
Miles wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:56 pm Got this from a fundamentalist Christian web site.

While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage.
source

Which is good enough for me.

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In that source, it states: "Gay marriage/same-sex marriage is a perversion of the institution of marriage and an offense to the God who created marriage."

Thus, it sounds like you would answer as the following:

Is same sex marriage a sin? yes
If so, where does the Bible say this? It does not say directly, I assume so based upon what God says about adjacent subject matter.
Further, why is it a sin? It offends god because this is not god's intended contract.

Are the above answers in red acceptable? If not, feel free to adjust where need-be...
Actually, the point of posting the quote was to show that even Bible Thumpers acknowledge that the Bible does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. That and no more. However, your answers are in keeping with the reasoning of homophobic Christians who dearly need to believe same sex marriage is a sin, despite the Bible remaining silent on the subject. For one thing, they pretend there's no difference between homosexuals who engage in sex, who their god of love and compassion clearly detests, and those homosexuals who stay chaste, who god completely ignores. BUT "Throw 'em all into the same pot. They all boil up the same anyway." the homophobic Christians cry. "Who needs people who aren't like us, anyway!


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I think it's pretty reasonable given that marriage is for two people to have sex and gay sex is explicitly prohibited. I would rather blame the subject matter, not its followers, who do not make such a terribly great leap.

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1213 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:56 am
POI wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:47 pm For debate:

Is same sex marriage a sin?
If so, where does the Bible say this?
Further, why is it a sin?
I think people call things too easily sin. It is not necessary usually. In this case I would just say, same sex marriage is stupid, because there is no intelligent reason for that.
Saying gay marriage is "stupid" and there's "no intelligent reason" for it is stupider and no intelligent reasoner.

So what if a man marries him a gigachad? Ain't nobody asking you to officiate.

What about two hot chicks? Ever watch that movie called "Bound"? That right there's reason enough to get them two married, in the hopes of recording the honeymoon.
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Miles wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:57 pm Being a homosexual and practicing homosexuality are two very different things.
Noted.

Wouldn't gay marriage be practicing homosexuality? Hence, is gay marriage considered a sin?
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POI wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:17 am
Miles wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:57 pm Being a homosexual and practicing homosexuality are two very different things.
Noted.

Wouldn't gay marriage be practicing homosexuality? Hence, is gay marriage considered a sin?
"Practicing homosexual" implies homosexual sex. And while almost all marriages do involve sex it's not a requirement.

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Miles wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:58 pm
POI wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:17 am
Miles wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:57 pm Being a homosexual and practicing homosexuality are two very different things.
Noted.

Wouldn't gay marriage be practicing homosexuality? Hence, is gay marriage considered a sin?
"Practicing homosexual" implies homosexual sex. And while almost all marriages do involve sex it's not a requirement.

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Interesting. Speaking of 'implies', is it implied that same sex marriage is a sin, or not? It has to be one or the other.
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POI wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:41 pm
Miles wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:58 pm
POI wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:17 am
Miles wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:57 pm Being a homosexual and practicing homosexuality are two very different things.
Noted.

Wouldn't gay marriage be practicing homosexuality? Hence, is gay marriage considered a sin?
"Practicing homosexual" implies homosexual sex. And while almost all marriages do involve sex it's not a requirement.

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Interesting. Speaking of 'implies', is it implied that same sex marriage is a sin, or not? It has to be one or the other.
In as much god doesn't say a thing about same-sex marriage---never mentions the concept---one can't realistically say he's against it. In fact, considering god is omniscient he would certainly be aware same-sex marriages would be taking place in the future, and as an astute homophobic ruler he would have made a law against them. However, he never made any such law. God remains mute, which means same-sex marriages simply aren't important enough to put on his "Sin List," or even disapprove of. So carry on same sex couples. Step up to the alter and commit to your vows. God obviously doesn't care. HOWEVER, this does not mean you're free to have sex with one another,---for some reason god really hates gay sex; lesbian sex not so much---because you can't without facing death at the hands of your fellow villagers. So just cool the sex and get on with whatever else married homosexuals do; watching football, washing dishes, paying bills, and whatever.


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