Is there more than one type of space created by God?

[sridatta]

[Smt. Anita Renkuntla asked: Pādanamaskāraṃ Swāmiji! I was reading the Datta Guru Bhagavad Gītā written by You. In that book, in Chapter 13, sloka 20, it is written that each different world (lokam) is based on different types of ākāśam (space). Here I am confused, as to whether there are different types of space created by God.]

Swāmi replied: The space of each world differs from the space of other world so that both the worlds co-exist mutually in different planes. It is just like an awakened person dreaming some created space in his mind while he exists in this space of this external world. Both the spaces co-exist in different planes without mutual contradiction. The world of departed souls, who neither did good deeds nor did bad deeds exists on the space just above the moon. At the same time, the rocket sent by us to the moon lands on moon without any interference. This is an example of the unimaginable power (Māyā) of God.


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[Diagoras]

The world of departed souls, who neither did good deeds nor did bad deeds exists on the space just above the moon.

As this is the science forum, you are going to have to provide some evidence for this claim.

At the same time, the rocket sent by us to the moon lands on moon without any interference. This is an example of the unimaginable power (Māyā) of God.

A lack of ‘interference’ with moon-bound rockets would also be observed with:

- a world of invisible, but benevolent sky pixies, or:

- the Flying Spaghetti Monster (because he likes rockets and bestows his blessings on those who launch them), or:

- a world of slow-witted demonic walruses that can’t react fast enough, or:

- just the perfectly normal volume of space between Earth and the Moon, with absolutely no spirits, pixies or anything else.

Of the alternative explanations on offer for moon rockets behaving as planned, which do you think is most plausible?

[sridatta]

The world of departed souls, who neither did good deeds nor did bad deeds exists on the space just above the moon.

As this is the science forum, you are going to have to provide some evidence for this claim.

At the same time, the rocket sent by us to the moon lands on moon without any interference. This is an example of the unimaginable power (Māyā) of God.

A lack of ‘interference’ with moon-bound rockets would also be observed with:

- a world of invisible, but benevolent sky pixies, or:

- the Flying Spaghetti Monster (because he likes rockets and bestows his blessings on those who launch them), or:

- a world of slow-witted demonic walruses that can’t react fast enough, or:

- just the perfectly normal volume of space between Earth and the Moon, with absolutely no spirits, pixies or anything else.

Of the alternative explanations on offer for moon rockets behaving as planned, which do you think is most plausible?

Certainly, there are two planes of existence. In one plane, earth and other planets seen in space exist. The second plane is composed of the upper sub-worlds of the Bhu Loka in which we live, in addition to the upper worlds and the lower worlds. The upper sub-worlds of the Bhu Loka include Preta Loka, Naraka Loka and Pitṛ Loka. The upper worlds include Jyotirloka (Bhuvarloka or Dyuloka), Svarga Loka, Maharloka, Jana Loka, Tapo Loka and Satya Loka.

The lower worlds include Atala, Vitala, Sutala, Talātala, Mahātala, Rasātala and Pātāla. All of them exist in space. But human beings existing in the first plane can see the second plane only by the grace of God. As such, hell and heaven also exist on earth in the form of punishments and rewards given to human beings for their intensive bad and good deeds respectively. These punishments and rewards received on earth by souls are essential since they prove that every soul must inevitably face the fruits of its good and bad deeds.

The soul’s experiences in the upper worlds do not come to the conscious state of the soul on earth, by the will of God. This allows souls to lead a fresh life on earth and learn spiritual knowledge in their human life with a calm and peaceful mind. God’s intention behind creating death is also to maintain souls in this peaceful state of mind. This is also the reason why the memories of previous births are not available to the soul in the conscious state in the soul’s human life on earth. Scriptures and Human Incarnations performing unimaginable events called miracles provide evidence about the existence of the worlds in the second plane. We also find cases where some children remember their past births in this very world. These cases of rebirth also prove the existence of the second plane.

[JoeyKnothead]

The world of departed souls, who neither did good deeds nor did bad deeds exists on the space just above the moon.

As this is the science forum, you are going to have to provide some evidence for this claim.

At the same time, the rocket sent by us to the moon lands on moon without any interference. This is an example of the unimaginable power (Māyā) of God.

A lack of ‘interference’ with moon-bound rockets would also be observed with:

- a world of invisible, but benevolent sky pixies, or:

- the Flying Spaghetti Monster (because he likes rockets and bestows his blessings on those who launch them), or:

- a world of slow-witted demonic walruses that can’t react fast enough, or:

- just the perfectly normal volume of space between Earth and the Moon, with absolutely no spirits, pixies or anything else.

Of the alternative explanations on offer for moon rockets behaving as planned, which do you think is most plausible?

Certainly, there are two planes of existence. In one plane, earth and other planets seen in space exist. The second plane is composed of the upper sub-worlds of the Bhu Loka in which we live, in addition to the upper worlds and the lower worlds. The upper sub-worlds of the Bhu Loka include Preta Loka, Naraka Loka and Pitṛ Loka. The upper worlds include Jyotirloka (Bhuvarloka or Dyuloka), Svarga Loka, Maharloka, Jana Loka, Tapo Loka and Satya Loka.

The lower worlds include Atala, Vitala, Sutala, Talātala, Mahātala, Rasātala and Pātāla. All of them exist in space. But human beings existing in the first plane can see the second plane only by the grace of God. As such, hell and heaven also exist on earth in the form of punishments and rewards given to human beings for their intensive bad and good deeds respectively. These punishments and rewards received on earth by souls are essential since they prove that every soul must inevitably face the fruits of its good and bad deeds.

The soul’s experiences in the upper worlds do not come to the conscious state of the soul on earth, by the will of God. This allows souls to lead a fresh life on earth and learn spiritual knowledge in their human life with a calm and peaceful mind. God’s intention behind creating death is also to maintain souls in this peaceful state of mind. This is also the reason why the memories of previous births are not available to the soul in the conscious state in the soul’s human life on earth. Scriptures and Human Incarnations performing unimaginable events called miracles provide evidence about the existence of the worlds in the second plane. We also find cases where some children remember their past births in this very world. These cases of rebirth also prove the existence of the second plane.

Do you ever support your claims with anything other'n to make more of em?

It's obvious you can't show you speak truth, so why do you just preach like you think folk're too stupid to see past your ruse?

[Diagoras]

[Replying to sridatta in post #3]

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[Diagoras]

[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #4]

Didn’t see your post - we must have both been working on our replies simultaneously.

I’m currently experimenting with different methods of engagement: having tried probing questions and sarcasm to no effect, I’m giving irrelevant nonsense a go. Let’s see what happens.

[OneWay]

Is there more than one type of space created by God?

God created inner space and outer space.
So the answer to your question is
YES

[sridatta]

Is there more than one type of space created by God?

God created inner space and outer space.
So the answer to your question is
YES

Unless Einstein discovered the concept of inter-conversion of matter and energy, today you could not have understood that this entire creation including space is basically the homogeneous energy called as ‘Sat’ by the Veda. Matter, space and awareness are various relative forms of energy and are called as ‘Asat’ by the Veda. Form and quality (feeling) are ‘Asat’ only even for awareness (soul) and so come under a lower category of Asat only. God is neither this ‘Sat’ nor this ‘Asat’ (Naasadasit No sadasit…Veda, Na Sat tat naasaduchyate…Gita). God is above the basic reality ‘Energy’ also. Awareness is the material of soul, which is created by matter (food) and matter is created by energy. Energy-Matter-Awareness is the chain of inter conversion. Energy is condensed into matter. Matter (food) on oxidation gives energy. Energy is converted in to awareness. Space is energy.

The soul cannot cross the dimensions of space by applying any amount of imagination or analysis. The soul cannot go beyond energy, which is the ultimate reality for the soul. Lord says that His power cannot be crossed (Mama Mayaa duratyayaa…Gita). His power or energy is wonderful by assuming so many forms and therefore is called as Maya. Maya means wonderful (Maya Vaichitrye). Even the energy, which is work of God, is unreal before God and thus God is above space and thus becomes unimaginable to any soul.

[OneWay]

Is there more than one type of space created by God?

God created inner space and outer space.
So the answer to your question is
YES

Let's start with the first statement you made in the post.

"Unless Einstein discovered the concept of inter-conversion of matter and energy, today you could not have understood that this entire creation including space is basically the homogeneous energy called as ‘Sat’ by the Veda. Matter, space and awareness are various relative forms of energy and are called as ‘Asat’ by the Veda."

Why not?