I would very much like to get opinions on this subject. I'll provide several verses from the King James Version of the Bible, and I ask you to give me feed-back.
Jesus' words:
1) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)
2) "My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16)
3) "Neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (John 8:42)
He replied, after the Pharisees accused him of making himself God:
4) "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the SON of God?" (John 10:36)
5) "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say....Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." (John 12:49,50)
6) To his Father in prayer: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)
7) "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17)
To John in the Revelation:
8) "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God..." (Revelation 3:12)
Do these quotations show that Jesus was NOT God?
Do YOU believe that he claimed to be God?
JESUS IS NOT GOD
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #711If you would look closely, OneWay, you'd see that it is the Son who has the new name, not God Almighty. Am I right? (See Revelation 3:12.)kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:40 pmImagine that.OneWay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:30 pmFather = God is a Spirit = Holy Spirit
Son = God the Holy Spirit dwelling in the body of a human man = Who's name is above all names = Jesus Christ
Holy Spirit = Both Father and Son are one with the Spirit greater than the body = My Father is greater than I
And just for the record in the book of Revelation it is written
that God has a new name. I know it. You do not.
Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #712Do you believe God is the Holy Spirit?onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:16 pm [Replying to OneWay in post #703]
I just answered that, above.
Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #713No, you are not right.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:18 pmIf you would look closely, OneWay, you'd see that it is the Son who has the new name, not God Almighty. Am I right? (See Revelation 3:12.)kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:40 pmImagine that.OneWay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:30 pmFather = God is a Spirit = Holy Spirit
Son = God the Holy Spirit dwelling in the body of a human man = Who's name is above all names = Jesus Christ
Holy Spirit = Both Father and Son are one with the Spirit greater than the body = My Father is greater than I
And just for the record in the book of Revelation it is written
that God has a new name. I know it. You do not.
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #714OneWay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:03 pmNo, you are not right.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:18 pmIf you would look closely, OneWay, you'd see that it is the Son who has the new name, not God Almighty. Am I right? (See Revelation 3:12.)kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:40 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:30 pmFather = God is a Spirit = Holy Spirit
Son = God the Holy Spirit dwelling in the body of a human man = Who's name is above all names = Jesus Christ
Holy Spirit = Both Father and Son are one with the Spirit greater than the body = My Father is greater than I
And just for the record in the book of Revelation it is written
that God has a new name. I know it. You do not.
Imagine that.
It clearly shows its the son with the new name.
Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #715So tell me,kjw47 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:04 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:03 pmNo, you are not right.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:18 pmIf you would look closely, OneWay, you'd see that it is the Son who has the new name, not God Almighty. Am I right? (See Revelation 3:12.)kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:40 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:30 pmFather = God is a Spirit = Holy Spirit
Son = God the Holy Spirit dwelling in the body of a human man = Who's name is above all names = Jesus Christ
Holy Spirit = Both Father and Son are one with the Spirit greater than the body = My Father is greater than I
And just for the record in the book of Revelation it is written
that God has a new name. I know it. You do not.
Imagine that.
It clearly shows its the son with the new name.
who's name is above all names?
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #716OneWay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:42 pmSo tell me,kjw47 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:04 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:03 pmNo, you are not right.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:18 pmIf you would look closely, OneWay, you'd see that it is the Son who has the new name, not God Almighty. Am I right? (See Revelation 3:12.)kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:40 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:30 pmFather = God is a Spirit = Holy Spirit
Son = God the Holy Spirit dwelling in the body of a human man = Who's name is above all names = Jesus Christ
Holy Spirit = Both Father and Son are one with the Spirit greater than the body = My Father is greater than I
And just for the record in the book of Revelation it is written
that God has a new name. I know it. You do not.
Imagine that.
It clearly shows its the son with the new name.
who's name is above all names?
It was God who made Jesus' name above other names, but it never would include Gods name in that.
Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #717Says who? You?kjw47 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 5:00 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:42 pmSo tell me,kjw47 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:04 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:03 pmNo, you are not right.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:18 pmIf you would look closely, OneWay, you'd see that it is the Son who has the new name, not God Almighty. Am I right? (See Revelation 3:12.)kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:40 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:30 pmFather = God is a Spirit = Holy Spirit
Son = God the Holy Spirit dwelling in the body of a human man = Who's name is above all names = Jesus Christ
Holy Spirit = Both Father and Son are one with the Spirit greater than the body = My Father is greater than I
And just for the record in the book of Revelation it is written
that God has a new name. I know it. You do not.
Imagine that.
It clearly shows its the son with the new name.
who's name is above all names?
It was God who made Jesus' name above other names, but it never would include Gods name in that.
Who are you?
Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #718What I think is ironic about you
is that you agree with me that the name of Jesus is above all names
but at the same time you deny His name is above all names.
Now that is poetic justice.
Oh wait a minute
you said
It was God who made Jesus' name above other names, but it never would include Gods name in that.
So you believe that the name of Jesus is above other names
but not all names.
Philippians 2:9
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Notice that it is written
EVERY NAME
is that you agree with me that the name of Jesus is above all names
but at the same time you deny His name is above all names.
Now that is poetic justice.
Oh wait a minute
you said
It was God who made Jesus' name above other names, but it never would include Gods name in that.
So you believe that the name of Jesus is above other names
but not all names.
Philippians 2:9
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Notice that it is written
EVERY NAME
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #720OneWay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:50 pmSays who? You?kjw47 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 5:00 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:42 pmSo tell me,kjw47 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:04 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:03 pmNo, you are not right.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:18 pmIf you would look closely, OneWay, you'd see that it is the Son who has the new name, not God Almighty. Am I right? (See Revelation 3:12.)kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:40 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:30 pmFather = God is a Spirit = Holy Spirit
Son = God the Holy Spirit dwelling in the body of a human man = Who's name is above all names = Jesus Christ
Holy Spirit = Both Father and Son are one with the Spirit greater than the body = My Father is greater than I
And just for the record in the book of Revelation it is written
that God has a new name. I know it. You do not.
Imagine that.
It clearly shows its the son with the new name.
who's name is above all names?
It was God who made Jesus' name above other names, but it never would include Gods name in that.
Who are you?
A servant of the true God=YHWH(Jehovah) no one is above Jehovah-Psalm 83:18