When I lived in Bali, I couldn't help observing the pervasive evidence of belief in demons. And of course demons put in an appearance in the Bible, not to mention in the gargoyles of old cathedrals.
On the other hand, modern science would seem to categorically reject the existence of demons, without a clear reason why, unless it has to do with the axiomatic presuppositions of science's governing ideology of reductionist materialism.
Question: Do demons exist? What evidence is there, for or against?
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Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
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Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
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"God don't let me lose my nerve" -- "Put Your Lights On"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCBS5EtszYI
"Who shall save the human race?"
-- "Wild Goose Chase" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L45toPpEv0
"A piece is gonna fall on you..."
-- "All You Zombies" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63O_cAclG3A[/i]
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #501Yes, they exist and they failed the test.William wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:34 pmYou seem to know a lot about demons. How do you know they do not have senses like humans? How do you know what they want? How do they possess people? Where in the person do they reside and how are they able to affect the behaviour of the possessed? Why does an exorcism cause them to leave and where do they go?The point is Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?I do not see a point in answering these questions.
That is why they are demons.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #502This tells of mythology built up around the idea of demons, but doesn't answer the questions that were asked about demons.OneWay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:51 pmYes, they exist and they failed the test.William wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:34 pmYou seem to know a lot about demons. How do you know they do not have senses like humans? How do you know what they want? How do they possess people? Where in the person do they reside and how are they able to affect the behaviour of the possessed? Why does an exorcism cause them to leave and where do they go?The point is Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?I do not see a point in answering these questions.
That is why they are demons.
Q: How do we know that demons do not have senses like humans?
Q: Where in the person do demons reside?
Q: How do we know what demons want?
Q: How do demons possess people?
Q: How are demons able to affect the behaviour of the possessed?
Q: Why does an exorcism cause demons to leave and where do they go?
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #503I recommend that you search out and find one and ask them all those questions.William wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:44 pmThis tells of mythology built up around the idea of demons, but doesn't answer the questions that were asked about demons.OneWay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:51 pmYes, they exist and they failed the test.William wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:34 pmYou seem to know a lot about demons. How do you know they do not have senses like humans? How do you know what they want? How do they possess people? Where in the person do they reside and how are they able to affect the behaviour of the possessed? Why does an exorcism cause them to leave and where do they go?The point is Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?I do not see a point in answering these questions.
That is why they are demons.
Q: How do we know that demons do not have senses like humans?
Q: Where in the person do demons reside?
Q: How do we know what demons want?
Q: How do demons possess people?
Q: How are demons able to affect the behaviour of the possessed?
Q: Why does an exorcism cause demons to leave and where do they go?
They say there is nothing better than first hand experience.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #504Q: How do we find a demon and ask it questions?OneWay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:13 pmI recommend that you search out and find one and ask them all those questions.William wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:44 pmI shall add that to the set of questions then;OneWay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:51 pmYes, they exist and they failed the test.William wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:34 pmYou seem to know a lot about demons. How do you know they do not have senses like humans? How do you know what they want? How do they possess people? Where in the person do they reside and how are they able to affect the behaviour of the possessed? Why does an exorcism cause them to leave and where do they go?The point is Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?I do not see a point in answering these questions.
That is why they are demons.
I recommend that you search out and find one and ask them all those questions.
They say there is nothing better than first hand experience.
This tells of mythology built up around the idea of demons, but doesn't answer the questions that were asked about demons.
Q: How do we know that demons do not have senses like humans?
Q: Where in the person do demons reside?
Q: How do we know what demons want?
Q: How do demons possess people?
Q: How are demons able to affect the behaviour of the possessed?
Q: Why does an exorcism cause demons to leave and where do they go?
They say there is nothing better than first hand experience.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #505It always amuses me when believers blather on endlessly about the supernatural, but when push comes to shove it turns out they know nothing. It's all just made up nonsense.
George Orwell:: “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #506Is that really what you want to do?William wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:25 pmQ: How do we find a demon and ask it questions?OneWay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:13 pmI recommend that you search out and find one and ask them all those questions.William wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:44 pmI shall add that to the set of questions then;OneWay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:51 pmYes, they exist and they failed the test.William wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:34 pmYou seem to know a lot about demons. How do you know they do not have senses like humans? How do you know what they want? How do they possess people? Where in the person do they reside and how are they able to affect the behaviour of the possessed? Why does an exorcism cause them to leave and where do they go?The point is Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?I do not see a point in answering these questions.
That is why they are demons.
I recommend that you search out and find one and ask them all those questions.
They say there is nothing better than first hand experience.
This tells of mythology built up around the idea of demons, but doesn't answer the questions that were asked about demons.
Q: How do we know that demons do not have senses like humans?
Q: Where in the person do demons reside?
Q: How do we know what demons want?
Q: How do demons possess people?
Q: How are demons able to affect the behaviour of the possessed?
Q: Why does an exorcism cause demons to leave and where do they go?
They say there is nothing better than first hand experience.
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #507Really? How would you know one way or the other the truth about it?
You may be one of those unbelievers who blathers on endlessly but when push comes to shove
it turns out you know nothing. It's all just made up nonsense.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #508[Replying to OneWay in post #506]
Why did you suggest it could be done?Is that really what you want to do?
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #509I'd like to know, because I've tried to summon, bring forth, interact with, contact, one many many times....all with no success.
Being apathetic is great....or not. I don't really care.
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Post #510OneWay implies that this can be done. However, there has been no further information on how this can be done, so for now we might have to assume OneWay wasn't being literal...but figurative [for some reason]?