When I lived in Bali, I couldn't help observing the pervasive evidence of belief in demons. And of course demons put in an appearance in the Bible, not to mention in the gargoyles of old cathedrals.
On the other hand, modern science would seem to categorically reject the existence of demons, without a clear reason why, unless it has to do with the axiomatic presuppositions of science's governing ideology of reductionist materialism.
Question: Do demons exist? What evidence is there, for or against?
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Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
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Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
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"God don't let me lose my nerve" -- "Put Your Lights On"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCBS5EtszYI
"Who shall save the human race?"
-- "Wild Goose Chase" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L45toPpEv0
"A piece is gonna fall on you..."
-- "All You Zombies" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63O_cAclG3A[/i]
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #511I don't think so. Not by you anyway.William wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:54 pm [Replying to OneWay in post #506]
Why did you suggest it could be done?Is that really what you want to do?
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Post #512Maybe I now nothing about demons because they are not real. If you know anything why can't you share it?
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Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
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Post #513How would you know if what I share with you is real or not?
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Post #514What test are you talking about?
What evidence can you offer for demons’ existing that cannot also be evidence for hallucinations? We are over fifty pages into this thread, without an answer.
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Post #515Is that why you won't share what you know, or is it that you really know nothing? As soon as believers are asked to front up it seems that we get nothing but dodges instead. What's the point?
George Orwell:: “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #516The question is notbrunumb wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:30 pmIs that why you won't share what you know, or is it that you really know nothing? As soon as believers are asked to front up it seems that we get nothing but dodges instead. What's the point?
do I know anything about them.
The question is
why would or should I teach you anything about them?
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #517What is a demon? You answer this, and we can proceed to the next step.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #518It’s an explanation given by some for phenomena that modern medicine more usually ascribes to a range of neurological conditions.
Perhaps re-read post #4 of this thread.
If ‘the next step’ involves you answering any of the various questions so far about ‘demons’, then progress will have been made.
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #519No, first we must establish the definition of a demon between the both of us.Diagoras wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:40 pmIt’s an explanation given by some for phenomena that modern medicine more usually ascribes to a range of neurological conditions.
Perhaps re-read post #4 of this thread.
If ‘the next step’ involves you answering any of the various questions so far about ‘demons’, then progress will have been made.
If not then what would be the point of any more conversation concerning it?
It would just be a clown show.
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Post #520Answered:
I wrote:It’s an explanation given by some for phenomena that modern medicine more usually ascribes to a range of neurological conditions.
Apologies - I mistakenly thought ‘the next step’ would be somehow forwards.You then wrote:No, first we must establish the definition of a demon between the both of us.
I suggest that to establish an agreed definition of a demon, you will need to post what you think is a suitable definition as well. Given some of your previous pronouncements on the subject, you surely have an idea of what they are?