When I lived in Bali, I couldn't help observing the pervasive evidence of belief in demons. And of course demons put in an appearance in the Bible, not to mention in the gargoyles of old cathedrals.
On the other hand, modern science would seem to categorically reject the existence of demons, without a clear reason why, unless it has to do with the axiomatic presuppositions of science's governing ideology of reductionist materialism.
Question: Do demons exist? What evidence is there, for or against?
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Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #581There are also other ways of dealing with anything to do with hearing 'a voice/voices'...which are part of the balancing process...JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:58 amHearing demons can be a sign of severe emotional distress, up to and including psychological disorders.
If anyone thinks they're hearing demons, it's very important to reach out to medical professionals trained in such.
There's therapies and antipsychotics that can work to address this very dangerous condition.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #582Am I hearing the voice of a demon?
JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:58 am
Hearing demons can be a sign of severe emotional distress, up to and including psychological disorders.
If anyone thinks they're hearing demons, it's very important to reach out to medical professionals trained in such.
There's therapies and antipsychotics that can work to address this very dangerous condition.
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Post #584He said, oblivious to the irony of making such a claim against others.OneWay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:10 pmIf you cannot see the mark, you are the mark.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:58 amHearing demons can be a sign of severe emotional distress, up to and including psychological disorders.
If anyone thinks they're hearing demons, it's very important to reach out to medical professionals trained in such.
There's therapies and antipsychotics that can work to address this very dangerous condition.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #585But the difference is, I can prove all mine.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:24 amHe said, oblivious to the irony of making such a claim against others.OneWay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:10 pmIf you cannot see the mark, you are the mark.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:58 amHearing demons can be a sign of severe emotional distress, up to and including psychological disorders.
If anyone thinks they're hearing demons, it's very important to reach out to medical professionals trained in such.
There's therapies and antipsychotics that can work to address this very dangerous condition.
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Post #586Yet have failed to do just that.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:47 amBut the difference is, I can prove all mine.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:24 amHe said, oblivious to the irony of making such a claim against others.OneWay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:10 pmIf you cannot see the mark, you are the mark.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:58 amHearing demons can be a sign of severe emotional distress, up to and including psychological disorders.
If anyone thinks they're hearing demons, it's very important to reach out to medical professionals trained in such.
There's therapies and antipsychotics that can work to address this very dangerous condition.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #587You have yet to prove it. So that is not true.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:45 amYet have failed to do just that.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:47 amBut the difference is, I can prove all mine.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:24 amHe said, oblivious to the irony of making such a claim against others.OneWay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:10 pmIf you cannot see the mark, you are the mark.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:58 amHearing demons can be a sign of severe emotional distress, up to and including psychological disorders.
If anyone thinks they're hearing demons, it's very important to reach out to medical professionals trained in such.
There's therapies and antipsychotics that can work to address this very dangerous condition.
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Post #588We've devolved to the "I know you are, but what am I" level now.
I'm content in concluding the observer won't be buying what you're trying to be selling.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #589You have provenJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:30 amWe've devolved to the "I know you are, but what am I" level now.
I'm content in concluding the observer won't be buying what you're trying to be selling.
NOTHING.
But demand proof of every word.
I take that back.
You have proven that you cannot prove anything you state.
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Post #590Ever notice how upset some folks get when, in debate, ya got the temerity to ask em how we can know they speak truth?OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:45 amYou have provenJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:30 amWe've devolved to the "I know you are, but what am I" level now.
I'm content in concluding the observer won't be buying what you're trying to be selling.
NOTHING.
But demand proof of every word.
I take that back.
You have proven that you cannot prove anything you state.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin
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