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May you have peace!

A question that continues to be posed to me is with regard to my bearing witness to a living and speaking Christ. How does He speak? What does that mean? How can we test that?

I imagine that one reason the questions are continually posed to me is because I cannot provide the proof that some are asking me to provide. I can only provide evidence in the form of:

a) Personal testimony from having heard Christ
b) The written testimony of or about others who have heard Christ
c) What Christ Himself is written to have said on the matter


If none of the above are acceptable to someone, then I am not sure what more that person and I would have to talk about on this particular matter. We could hopefully discuss respectfully from a point of love, reason, logic. For those who are interested...


Christ said that His sheep would hear His voice.

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me." John 10:27

"I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me, even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. "I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.…" John 10:14-16



Written testimony about/from others who heard His voice, confirming the truth of what He said:

The Spirit told Philip, "Go to that chariot and stay near it." Acts 8:29

**
In Damascus, there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision, "Ananias!"

"Yes Lord," he answered.

The Lord told him, "Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands on him to restore his sight."
(Acts 9:10,11... and it continues)

**
There is Peter's vision telling him that he should eat foods that he considered unclean, and then after his vision:

While Peter was still thinking about the vision, the Spirit (Christ) said to him, "Simon, three men are looking for you. So get up and go downstairs. Do not hesitate to go with them, for I have sent them." (Acts 10: 9-20)

**
There are of course multiple examples from Paul. The entire book of Revelation is from Christ to John. There is a warning against hardening our hearts if we hear His voice.

As has just been said: "Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as you did in the rebellion." Hebrews 3:15

Then of course there are the examples of Abraham, who heard, Noah, who heard, the prophets, who heard, Joseph, who heard, Daniel, who heard, etc, etc. Their faith is based upon the evidence of what they heard.



My own personal testimony


I did not always know that Christ spoke, and I did not always recognize that voice within me as being His. But someone else bore witness to a living speaking Christ, and it bothered me, lol. I had just ended a two year bible study with a certain denomination, and I did not want to get misled by man ever gain. But here was this person claiming that Christ spoke. If I believed this person, that they were from God, then what was wrong with me that I allowed myself to get misled yet again. On the other hand, what was wrong with me if this person did hear Christ, and I rejected them?

But soon into my dilemma (and my asking how I might know, even though I thought I was just asking myself) I heard:

Test WHAT this person is saying. Test the message. Do not pay attention to the person. Test to see if what this person is saying is true, or not. Then you will know who this person is from.


I still did not know this was Christ speaking to me. I just thought, "Oh, of course... that is what I will do."

So that is what I did. Along the way, I saw all these verses and examples and testimony that Christ does indeed speak, that God spoke also, though now speaks through Christ. In dreams, in visions, in direct words, in reminders, in opening eyes and ears to a truth that one might read, see, or hear. Once I realized that Christ is supposed to speak, I asked for ears to hear as well. Even though I did hear Him; I just did not know I heard Him. I needed to learn His voice and recognize Him.

**

I was asked how does He speak

He speaks in words. He speaks in visions (I have never had a vision that I am aware of). He speaks in dreams. He can also bring to mind something learned, read, or experienced in the past to help me see the truth in something He is teaching me. He has opened my eyes to something that is written, if I am reading the bible. He can and has read to me something that He is written to have said, so that I hear it in His voice. That was enlightening.

Sometimes when I am responding to something that someone else has asked, He will give me the words to say, or reveal something to me (as in open my heart and ears to understanding something) that I had not previously understood.


The language that He speaks is truth. He has never spoken anything to me that was not true, and that was not from love. And everything He teaches me deepens my understanding of love: His love and the love of His Father.



(As for testing the inspired expression... anything that is in conflict with what Christ teaches cannot be true. Also Christ (truth) comes from love (God), so nothing that He says will be in conflict with love. Especially since the law that is written upon our hearts in the new covenant is the law of love.)


**

I do not expect anyone to take my word for these things. I do not take the word of others for what they claim came from Christ. I explained above what I did, what I heard from Christ TO do.

If I have shared anything that helps anyone, then great. If not, then no problem. I am not the one people should be listening to if they are following or desiring to follow Christ... I can only point TO that One: Christ Jaheshua, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, the Chosen One of Jah. Christ, who is Himself, the faithful and true witness of His Father, Jah.



If one wants to know the truth of this matter themselves... then ask Christ. That is how one can confirm for themselves. Ask for ears to hear, and in the meantime DO what He has said to do, so that you prove yourself to Him. He does not have to prove Himself to us.

"If anyone loves me, they will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come and make our home with (in) them."


(Please note that He says that they will obey HIS teaching. Not man's teaching. Not religion or religious leaders, not Paul, not the law, or anyone or anything else over Him. If we love HIM... we will obey HIM. If we love someone or something else more, then we will listen to and obey that one/thing. Including if we love our religion more than Him, although we might not realize it at the time. Including if we think the bible is the Word of God, especially when even that book states that Christ is the Word of God; and Christ himself said, "You diligently search the scriptures because you think that by them you have eternal life. These are the scriptures that testify about ME, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.")



May anyone who wishes them be given ears to hear, to get a sense of these things, and to hear as the Spirit (Christ) and the bride SAY to you, "Come... take the free gift of the water of life."


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
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tam wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:12 pm Peace to you, oneway,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:05 am
tam wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:24 pm May you have peace!




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I'm not really sure what your point is, but this is the command that Christ gave:

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.

And what He did,

Eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you."

(Many people are in their homes when reading these posts)



Certainly there is not going to be peace in the world, since some accept and some reject, and Christ came to speak and teach what is true (even though many would reject that truth and He, Himself). But if we love Christ, then we will obey His commands (John 14: 15, 21, 23) - one of which is to offer a blessing of peace.
John
Chapter 8
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Indeed. What one does with their freedom and who they choose to serve, is up to them. Just as Christ came to serve, and made Himself a least one, just as He also said that we are to serve one another, and that whoever wishes to be greatest must be least. Note also that the apostles and other disciples referred to themselves as slaves/servants of Christ also, and surely you would agree that Christ/the Truth had set them free, yes?


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Do you agree that anyone who commits sin is a servant to sin?
Yes or no?

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Peace again to you,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:35 pm
tam wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:12 pm Peace to you, oneway,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:05 am
tam wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:24 pm May you have peace!




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I'm not really sure what your point is, but this is the command that Christ gave:

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.

And what He did,

Eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you."

(Many people are in their homes when reading these posts)



Certainly there is not going to be peace in the world, since some accept and some reject, and Christ came to speak and teach what is true (even though many would reject that truth and He, Himself). But if we love Christ, then we will obey His commands (John 14: 15, 21, 23) - one of which is to offer a blessing of peace.
John
Chapter 8
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Indeed. What one does with their freedom and who they choose to serve, is up to them. Just as Christ came to serve, and made Himself a least one, just as He also said that we are to serve one another, and that whoever wishes to be greatest must be least. Note also that the apostles and other disciples referred to themselves as slaves/servants of Christ also, and surely you would agree that Christ/the Truth had set them free, yes?


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
It is not my point. I repeated to you
what someone else said about you an me.
I agree with them.
So you were not objecting then to me saying 'peace' to others?
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Peace to you,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:41 pm
tam wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:12 pm Peace to you, oneway,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:05 am
tam wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:24 pm May you have peace!




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I'm not really sure what your point is, but this is the command that Christ gave:

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.

And what He did,

Eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you."

(Many people are in their homes when reading these posts)



Certainly there is not going to be peace in the world, since some accept and some reject, and Christ came to speak and teach what is true (even though many would reject that truth and He, Himself). But if we love Christ, then we will obey His commands (John 14: 15, 21, 23) - one of which is to offer a blessing of peace.
John
Chapter 8
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Indeed. What one does with their freedom and who they choose to serve, is up to them. Just as Christ came to serve, and made Himself a least one, just as He also said that we are to serve one another, and that whoever wishes to be greatest must be least. Note also that the apostles and other disciples referred to themselves as slaves/servants of Christ also, and surely you would agree that Christ/the Truth had set them free, yes?


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Do you agree that Jesus did not come to send peace on earth: but a sword,
and to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother,
and the daughter in law against her mother in law?

Yes or no?
Christ said it so of course I agree. Truth is going to cause divisions between those who reject the truth (and Christ) and those who accept the truth (and Christ). Including in families, where someone may accept Christ and others may not, may even outright reject Him (and so also those who belong to Him).


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Peace to you,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:47 pm
tam wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:12 pm Peace to you, oneway,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:05 am
tam wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:24 pm May you have peace!




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I'm not really sure what your point is, but this is the command that Christ gave:

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.

And what He did,

Eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you."

(Many people are in their homes when reading these posts)



Certainly there is not going to be peace in the world, since some accept and some reject, and Christ came to speak and teach what is true (even though many would reject that truth and He, Himself). But if we love Christ, then we will obey His commands (John 14: 15, 21, 23) - one of which is to offer a blessing of peace.
John
Chapter 8
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Indeed. What one does with their freedom and who they choose to serve, is up to them. Just as Christ came to serve, and made Himself a least one, just as He also said that we are to serve one another, and that whoever wishes to be greatest must be least. Note also that the apostles and other disciples referred to themselves as slaves/servants of Christ also, and surely you would agree that Christ/the Truth had set them free, yes?


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Do you agree that anyone who commits sin is a servant to sin?
Yes or no?
Only if and until the Son (the Truth) sets that person free.



Peace again to you.
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tam wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:52 pm Peace again to you,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:35 pm
tam wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:12 pm Peace to you, oneway,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:05 am
tam wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:24 pm May you have peace!




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I'm not really sure what your point is, but this is the command that Christ gave:

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.

And what He did,

Eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you."

(Many people are in their homes when reading these posts)



Certainly there is not going to be peace in the world, since some accept and some reject, and Christ came to speak and teach what is true (even though many would reject that truth and He, Himself). But if we love Christ, then we will obey His commands (John 14: 15, 21, 23) - one of which is to offer a blessing of peace.
John
Chapter 8
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Indeed. What one does with their freedom and who they choose to serve, is up to them. Just as Christ came to serve, and made Himself a least one, just as He also said that we are to serve one another, and that whoever wishes to be greatest must be least. Note also that the apostles and other disciples referred to themselves as slaves/servants of Christ also, and surely you would agree that Christ/the Truth had set them free, yes?


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
It is not my point. I repeated to you
what someone else said about you an me.
I agree with them.
So you were not objecting then to me saying 'peace' to others?
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tam wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:55 pm Peace to you,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:41 pm
tam wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:12 pm Peace to you, oneway,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:05 am
tam wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:24 pm May you have peace!




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I'm not really sure what your point is, but this is the command that Christ gave:

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.

And what He did,

Eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you."

(Many people are in their homes when reading these posts)



Certainly there is not going to be peace in the world, since some accept and some reject, and Christ came to speak and teach what is true (even though many would reject that truth and He, Himself). But if we love Christ, then we will obey His commands (John 14: 15, 21, 23) - one of which is to offer a blessing of peace.
John
Chapter 8
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Indeed. What one does with their freedom and who they choose to serve, is up to them. Just as Christ came to serve, and made Himself a least one, just as He also said that we are to serve one another, and that whoever wishes to be greatest must be least. Note also that the apostles and other disciples referred to themselves as slaves/servants of Christ also, and surely you would agree that Christ/the Truth had set them free, yes?


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Do you agree that Jesus did not come to send peace on earth: but a sword,
and to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother,
and the daughter in law against her mother in law?

Yes or no?
Christ said it so of course I agree. Truth is going to cause divisions between those who reject the truth (and Christ) and those who accept the truth (and Christ). Including in families, where someone may accept Christ and others may not, may even outright reject Him (and so also those who belong to Him).


Peace again to you.
Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother,
and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also,
he cannot be my disciple.

Do you hate anyone of these?

Yes or no?

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tam wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:58 pm Peace to you,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:47 pm
tam wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:12 pm Peace to you, oneway,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:05 am
tam wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:24 pm May you have peace!




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I'm not really sure what your point is, but this is the command that Christ gave:

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.

And what He did,

Eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you."

(Many people are in their homes when reading these posts)



Certainly there is not going to be peace in the world, since some accept and some reject, and Christ came to speak and teach what is true (even though many would reject that truth and He, Himself). But if we love Christ, then we will obey His commands (John 14: 15, 21, 23) - one of which is to offer a blessing of peace.
John
Chapter 8
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Indeed. What one does with their freedom and who they choose to serve, is up to them. Just as Christ came to serve, and made Himself a least one, just as He also said that we are to serve one another, and that whoever wishes to be greatest must be least. Note also that the apostles and other disciples referred to themselves as slaves/servants of Christ also, and surely you would agree that Christ/the Truth had set them free, yes?


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Do you agree that anyone who commits sin is a servant to sin?
Yes or no?
Only if and until the Son (the Truth) sets that person free.



Peace again to you.
Do you stop committing sin when the Son makes you free?

Yes or no?

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Peace to you!
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:14 pm
tam wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:55 pm Peace to you,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:41 pm
tam wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:12 pm Peace to you, oneway,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:05 am
tam wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:24 pm May you have peace!




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I'm not really sure what your point is, but this is the command that Christ gave:

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.

And what He did,

Eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you."

(Many people are in their homes when reading these posts)



Certainly there is not going to be peace in the world, since some accept and some reject, and Christ came to speak and teach what is true (even though many would reject that truth and He, Himself). But if we love Christ, then we will obey His commands (John 14: 15, 21, 23) - one of which is to offer a blessing of peace.
John
Chapter 8
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Indeed. What one does with their freedom and who they choose to serve, is up to them. Just as Christ came to serve, and made Himself a least one, just as He also said that we are to serve one another, and that whoever wishes to be greatest must be least. Note also that the apostles and other disciples referred to themselves as slaves/servants of Christ also, and surely you would agree that Christ/the Truth had set them free, yes?


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Do you agree that Jesus did not come to send peace on earth: but a sword,
and to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother,
and the daughter in law against her mother in law?

Yes or no?
Christ said it so of course I agree. Truth is going to cause divisions between those who reject the truth (and Christ) and those who accept the truth (and Christ). Including in families, where someone may accept Christ and others may not, may even outright reject Him (and so also those who belong to Him).


Peace again to you.
Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother,
and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also,
he cannot be my disciple.

Do you hate anyone of these?

Yes or no?
I am not answering that with a yes or a no, because it must be put into context. I love my Lord (Christ) and His Father (JAH) the MOST. I can understand hating one's own life (and sinful flesh) in the sense of disowning oneself, and putting the will of God and His Son FIRST.

That being said, I am still supposed (and do) love my parents, my children, my husband, my brothers and sisters in Christ, and even my enemies (as Christ also commanded that we do).


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Peace to you,
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:16 pm
tam wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:58 pm Peace to you,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:47 pm
tam wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:12 pm Peace to you, oneway,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:05 am
tam wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:24 pm May you have peace!




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I'm not really sure what your point is, but this is the command that Christ gave:

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.

And what He did,

Eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you."

(Many people are in their homes when reading these posts)



Certainly there is not going to be peace in the world, since some accept and some reject, and Christ came to speak and teach what is true (even though many would reject that truth and He, Himself). But if we love Christ, then we will obey His commands (John 14: 15, 21, 23) - one of which is to offer a blessing of peace.
John
Chapter 8
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Indeed. What one does with their freedom and who they choose to serve, is up to them. Just as Christ came to serve, and made Himself a least one, just as He also said that we are to serve one another, and that whoever wishes to be greatest must be least. Note also that the apostles and other disciples referred to themselves as slaves/servants of Christ also, and surely you would agree that Christ/the Truth had set them free, yes?


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Do you agree that anyone who commits sin is a servant to sin?
Yes or no?
Only if and until the Son (the Truth) sets that person free.



Peace again to you.
Do you stop committing sin when the Son makes you free?

Yes or no?
Try not to... but I also know that I am a sinner. The difference is that I belong to my Lord, He purchased me with His own blood, and if/when I do sin, I have Him to intercede with the Father on my behalf. My sins are forgiven (fore-give = something given beforehand) in Him.


Peace again to you.
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Re: Does Christ speak and how?

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tam wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:25 pm Peace to you!
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:14 pm
tam wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:55 pm Peace to you,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:41 pm
tam wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:12 pm Peace to you, oneway,
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:05 am
tam wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:24 pm May you have peace!




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I'm not really sure what your point is, but this is the command that Christ gave:

5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.

And what He did,

Eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you."

(Many people are in their homes when reading these posts)



Certainly there is not going to be peace in the world, since some accept and some reject, and Christ came to speak and teach what is true (even though many would reject that truth and He, Himself). But if we love Christ, then we will obey His commands (John 14: 15, 21, 23) - one of which is to offer a blessing of peace.
John
Chapter 8
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Indeed. What one does with their freedom and who they choose to serve, is up to them. Just as Christ came to serve, and made Himself a least one, just as He also said that we are to serve one another, and that whoever wishes to be greatest must be least. Note also that the apostles and other disciples referred to themselves as slaves/servants of Christ also, and surely you would agree that Christ/the Truth had set them free, yes?


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Do you agree that Jesus did not come to send peace on earth: but a sword,
and to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother,
and the daughter in law against her mother in law?

Yes or no?
Christ said it so of course I agree. Truth is going to cause divisions between those who reject the truth (and Christ) and those who accept the truth (and Christ). Including in families, where someone may accept Christ and others may not, may even outright reject Him (and so also those who belong to Him).


Peace again to you.
Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother,
and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also,
he cannot be my disciple.

Do you hate anyone of these?

Yes or no?
I am not answering that with a yes or a no, because it must be put into context. I love my Lord (Christ) and His Father (JAH) the MOST. I can understand hating one's own life (and sinful flesh) in the sense of disowning oneself, and putting the will of God and His Son FIRST.

That being said, I am still supposed (and do) love my parents, my children, my husband, my brothers and sisters in Christ, and even my enemies (as Christ also commanded that we do).


Did that help to answer your question?
I already knew before I asked you that you did not
obey this commandment of Jesus.

You do not know Jesus.

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