Hi all,
The thing about creation is that we do it every moment.
- I look at a lump of matter and make it into my wife every day of my marriage.
- Apparently, there is a bunch of atoms that I recognise every day how to get back to and I call it my home.
The day you are not a creationist, you likely have lost your mind.
Are you a creationist? Thoughts?
Are you a creationist?
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Are you a creationist?
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Re: Are you a creationist?
Post #151Time for a translation. Theist to English "I can't or won't answer your question, so I will do some sarcastic sneering". In fact I tend to see this "Oh you are so very clever" type of sneer as a grudging realisation that the other fellow is in fact the wiser.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:32 pmMy oh my how did you get to be so wise. I am overwhelmed by it.brunumb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:22 pmYou did not answer my question. You simply asked me another question. Is English not your first language? Or are you simply trolling us and wasting our time? Going back through all your posts it seems you are not here to contribute anything.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:29 amI did answer the question.brunumb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:06 amQuestion in red. Response in blue. The response does not answer the question.
You must excuse me if I reach the conclusion that we are being trolled.
I asked you why should anyone care? Now you answer the question.
If Adam is just a character in a mythological tale, why indeed would it matter? If you can't or won't, it means he wins. As I recall,YOUR question was answered (refuted) but you asked it again below the answer .(1)
Your argument seems to be going down the tube and taking the religious credit with it.
(1) or maybe not. You tried a red herring of asking who decides the accuracy of Genesis. Short answer, Science refutes it. But as the Mod says, there is a thread on it. But the point you ignore is that IF (as you implied hypothetically) Genesis was a mythological tale, that Adam was a character means nothing and (as exhaustively refuted) imagining a character though an act of human imaginative creation is not a validation of claimed divine creation, nor does it make everyone creationists, which has a very specific meaning.
On every level, evidence, logic and even intellectual integrity, you have lost ground on this one.
Re: Are you a creationist?
Post #152Are there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endureTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:55 pmTime for a translation. Theist to English "I can't or won't answer your question, so I will do some sarcastic sneering". In fact I tend to see this "Oh you are so very clever" type of sneer as a grudging realisation that the other fellow is in fact the wiser.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:32 pmMy oh my how did you get to be so wise. I am overwhelmed by it.brunumb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:22 pmYou did not answer my question. You simply asked me another question. Is English not your first language? Or are you simply trolling us and wasting our time? Going back through all your posts it seems you are not here to contribute anything.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:29 amI did answer the question.brunumb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:06 amQuestion in red. Response in blue. The response does not answer the question.
You must excuse me if I reach the conclusion that we are being trolled.
I asked you why should anyone care? Now you answer the question.
If Adam is just a character in a mythological tale, why indeed would it matter? If you can't or won't, it means he wins. As I recall,YOUR question was answered (refuted) but you asked it again below the answer .(1)
Your argument seems to be going down the tube and taking the religious credit with it.
(1) or maybe not. You tried a red herring of asking who decides the accuracy of Genesis. Short answer, Science refutes it. But as the Mod says, there is a thread on it. But the point you ignore is that IF (as you implied hypothetically) Genesis was a mythological tale, that Adam was a character means nothing and (as exhaustively refuted) imagining a character though an act of human imaginative creation is not a validation of claimed divine creation, nor does it make everyone creationists, which has a very specific meaning.
On every level, evidence, logic and even intellectual integrity, you have lost ground on this one.
whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
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Re: Are you a creationist?
Post #153As it happens, yes, so what does that have to do with anything? I could express concern that there may be people who are affected by the judgements of someone who reasons as poorly as you do, but i fail to see the relevance.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:11 pmAre there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endureTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:55 pmTime for a translation. Theist to English "I can't or won't answer your question, so I will do some sarcastic sneering". In fact I tend to see this "Oh you are so very clever" type of sneer as a grudging realisation that the other fellow is in fact the wiser.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:32 pmMy oh my how did you get to be so wise. I am overwhelmed by it.brunumb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:22 pmYou did not answer my question. You simply asked me another question. Is English not your first language? Or are you simply trolling us and wasting our time? Going back through all your posts it seems you are not here to contribute anything.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:29 amI did answer the question.
I asked you why should anyone care? Now you answer the question.
If Adam is just a character in a mythological tale, why indeed would it matter? If you can't or won't, it means he wins. As I recall,YOUR question was answered (refuted) but you asked it again below the answer .(1)
Your argument seems to be going down the tube and taking the religious credit with it.
(1) or maybe not. You tried a red herring of asking who decides the accuracy of Genesis. Short answer, Science refutes it. But as the Mod says, there is a thread on it. But the point you ignore is that IF (as you implied hypothetically) Genesis was a mythological tale, that Adam was a character means nothing and (as exhaustively refuted) imagining a character though an act of human imaginative creation is not a validation of claimed divine creation, nor does it make everyone creationists, which has a very specific meaning.
On every level, evidence, logic and even intellectual integrity, you have lost ground on this one.
whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
Re: Are you a creationist?
Post #154In life, there are many times that you will have to step out in faith becauseTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:25 pmAs it happens, yes, so what does that have to do with anything? I could express concern that there may be people who are affected by the judgements of someone who reasons as poorly as you do, but i fail to see the relevance.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:11 pmAre there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endureTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:55 pmTime for a translation. Theist to English "I can't or won't answer your question, so I will do some sarcastic sneering". In fact I tend to see this "Oh you are so very clever" type of sneer as a grudging realisation that the other fellow is in fact the wiser.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:32 pmMy oh my how did you get to be so wise. I am overwhelmed by it.brunumb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:22 pmYou did not answer my question. You simply asked me another question. Is English not your first language? Or are you simply trolling us and wasting our time? Going back through all your posts it seems you are not here to contribute anything.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:29 amI did answer the question.
I asked you why should anyone care? Now you answer the question.
If Adam is just a character in a mythological tale, why indeed would it matter? If you can't or won't, it means he wins. As I recall,YOUR question was answered (refuted) but you asked it again below the answer .(1)
Your argument seems to be going down the tube and taking the religious credit with it.
(1) or maybe not. You tried a red herring of asking who decides the accuracy of Genesis. Short answer, Science refutes it. But as the Mod says, there is a thread on it. But the point you ignore is that IF (as you implied hypothetically) Genesis was a mythological tale, that Adam was a character means nothing and (as exhaustively refuted) imagining a character though an act of human imaginative creation is not a validation of claimed divine creation, nor does it make everyone creationists, which has a very specific meaning.
On every level, evidence, logic and even intellectual integrity, you have lost ground on this one.
whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
there is no way to measure the accuracy of the evidence that is presented before you.
That is the relevancy that you fail to see, and the reason being you are a failure at it is
because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.
If that is to far above your understanding
then please forgive me.
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Re: Are you a creationist?
Post #155This is a reply.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:34 pmNo the truth will decide the winner. And if you can't reply then the debate is over.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:08 amThis is a debate, you don't make the rules.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:43 amThis is a debate. You do not make the rules. Your tactic is when you can not rise to the challengeJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:28 amThis is a common theist tactic to avoid showing they speak truth.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:44 amWho or what determines it's accuracy. You answer that then I will tell you.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:40 am I'll take that to mean you can't show the book of Genesis is an accurate record in this matter.
I propose if you could show you speak truth, you wouldn't fret to show ya do.
is to deflect with some nonsense such as
" This is a common theist tactic to avoid showing they speak truth.
I propose if you could show you speak truth, you wouldn't fret to show ya do."
If you cannot or will not tell me who or what determines the accuracy of the book of Genesis
YOU LOSE THE DEBATE.
The observer'll decide winners and losers.
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Re: Are you a creationist?
Post #156Can anyone here break a one? I gotta put some money in the plate.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:59 pmIn life, there are many times that you will have to step out in faith becauseTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:25 pmAs it happens, yes, so what does that have to do with anything? I could express concern that there may be people who are affected by the judgements of someone who reasons as poorly as you do, but i fail to see the relevance.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:11 pmAre there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endureTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:55 pmTime for a translation. Theist to English "I can't or won't answer your question, so I will do some sarcastic sneering". In fact I tend to see this "Oh you are so very clever" type of sneer as a grudging realisation that the other fellow is in fact the wiser.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:32 pmMy oh my how did you get to be so wise. I am overwhelmed by it.brunumb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:22 pmYou did not answer my question. You simply asked me another question. Is English not your first language? Or are you simply trolling us and wasting our time? Going back through all your posts it seems you are not here to contribute anything.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:29 amI did answer the question.
I asked you why should anyone care? Now you answer the question.
If Adam is just a character in a mythological tale, why indeed would it matter? If you can't or won't, it means he wins. As I recall,YOUR question was answered (refuted) but you asked it again below the answer .(1)
Your argument seems to be going down the tube and taking the religious credit with it.
(1) or maybe not. You tried a red herring of asking who decides the accuracy of Genesis. Short answer, Science refutes it. But as the Mod says, there is a thread on it. But the point you ignore is that IF (as you implied hypothetically) Genesis was a mythological tale, that Adam was a character means nothing and (as exhaustively refuted) imagining a character though an act of human imaginative creation is not a validation of claimed divine creation, nor does it make everyone creationists, which has a very specific meaning.
On every level, evidence, logic and even intellectual integrity, you have lost ground on this one.
whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
there is no way to measure the accuracy of the evidence that is presented before you.
That is the relevancy that you fail to see, and the reason being you are a failure at it is
because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.
If that is to far above your understanding
then please forgive me.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin
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Re: Are you a creationist?
Post #157Are there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endureJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:06 pmCan anyone here break a one? I gotta put some money in the plate.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:59 pmIn life, there are many times that you will have to step out in faith becauseTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:25 pmAs it happens, yes, so what does that have to do with anything? I could express concern that there may be people who are affected by the judgements of someone who reasons as poorly as you do, but i fail to see the relevance.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:11 pmAre there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endureTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:55 pmTime for a translation. Theist to English "I can't or won't answer your question, so I will do some sarcastic sneering". In fact I tend to see this "Oh you are so very clever" type of sneer as a grudging realisation that the other fellow is in fact the wiser.OneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:32 pmMy oh my how did you get to be so wise. I am overwhelmed by it.brunumb wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:22 pmYou did not answer my question. You simply asked me another question. Is English not your first language? Or are you simply trolling us and wasting our time? Going back through all your posts it seems you are not here to contribute anything.
If Adam is just a character in a mythological tale, why indeed would it matter? If you can't or won't, it means he wins. As I recall,YOUR question was answered (refuted) but you asked it again below the answer .(1)
Your argument seems to be going down the tube and taking the religious credit with it.
(1) or maybe not. You tried a red herring of asking who decides the accuracy of Genesis. Short answer, Science refutes it. But as the Mod says, there is a thread on it. But the point you ignore is that IF (as you implied hypothetically) Genesis was a mythological tale, that Adam was a character means nothing and (as exhaustively refuted) imagining a character though an act of human imaginative creation is not a validation of claimed divine creation, nor does it make everyone creationists, which has a very specific meaning.
On every level, evidence, logic and even intellectual integrity, you have lost ground on this one.
whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
there is no way to measure the accuracy of the evidence that is presented before you.
That is the relevancy that you fail to see, and the reason being you are a failure at it is
because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.
If that is to far above your understanding
then please forgive me.
whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
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Re: Are you a creationist?
Post #158Not gonna work on me. I'm confined to my property by legal / psychiatric order, and the pretty thing has control of the finances.
My point about the collection plate was your preaching about...
You're just another theist who thinks preaching is debate....because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin
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Re: Are you a creationist?
Post #159I am not even a Christian and I do not believeJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:39 amNot gonna work on me. I'm confined to my property by legal / psychiatric order, and the pretty thing has control of the finances.
My point about the collection plate was your preaching about...
You're just another theist who thinks preaching is debate....because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.
everything written in the bible is the truth.
So your theory about me is all incorrect.
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Re: Are you a creationist?
Post #160Where in my comment did I call you a Christian?OneWay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:43 amI am not even a Christian and I do not believeJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:39 amNot gonna work on me. I'm confined to my property by legal / psychiatric order, and the pretty thing has control of the finances.
My point about the collection plate was your preaching about...
You're just another theist who thinks preaching is debate....because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.
everything written in the bible is the truth.
So your theory about me is all incorrect.
Your hypothesis is incorrect.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
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