Do demons exist? Can that be tested?

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Do demons exist? Can that be tested?

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When I lived in Bali, I couldn't help observing the pervasive evidence of belief in demons. And of course demons put in an appearance in the Bible, not to mention in the gargoyles of old cathedrals.

On the other hand, modern science would seem to categorically reject the existence of demons, without a clear reason why, unless it has to do with the axiomatic presuppositions of science's governing ideology of reductionist materialism.

Question: Do demons exist? What evidence is there, for or against?

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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:57 pm
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:38 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:35 pm
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:30 pm There is nothing about me is false. Including my God.
Are you challenging me to a debate?
If so go for it.

Make your opening statement.
My opening statement, by JoeyKnothead

You can't show your god exists.

This concludes my opening statement.
My rebuttal.
You cannot show my God does not exist.
"You can't show it ain't! You can't show it ain't! You can't show it aint!"
What definition of "God" are we going to use in our debate?
I need to know which one you recognize so as to rebuttal your statement.

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Clownboat wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:01 pm
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:38 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:35 pm
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:30 pm There is nothing about me is false. Including my God.
Are you challenging me to a debate?
If so go for it.

Make your opening statement.
My opening statement, by JoeyKnothead

You can't show your god exists.

This concludes my opening statement.
My rebuttal.
You cannot show my God does not exist.
The reality is, we cannot show you that anything that doesn't exist, well... doesn't exist. This is telling.
Copy/paste: "Do you see why this is a failure in logical thinking and why you should abandon it? It's ok if you can't, I'm sure our readers can see it."
I can easily show you my God.
He is everywhere. Even in plain sight.
Even you can see Him, you just don't know it.

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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?

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OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:13 pm I can easily show you my God.
He is everywhere. Even in plain sight.
Even you can see Him, you just don't know it.
It seems like you are having a very hard time following along.

The question asked of you was:
"Do you see why this is a failure in logical thinking and why you should abandon it?" ----> (You cannot show my God does not exist.)

If you are not sure how to form a response, it would probably be best to just not answer.
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Clownboat wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:32 pm
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:13 pm I can easily show you my God.
He is everywhere. Even in plain sight.
Even you can see Him, you just don't know it.
It seems like you are having a very hard time following along.

The question asked of you was:
"Do you see why this is a failure in logical thinking and why you should abandon it?" ----> (You cannot show my God does not exist.)

If you are not sure how to form a response, it would probably be best to just not answer.
“It is better for a man to remain silent and appear a fool, then to open his mouth and remove all doubt.”
Before I am going to take your question into any account,
you first must establish in what context we are going to debate it.

I wager you cannot comprehend what I just posted to you.

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OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:10 pm What definition of "God" are we going to use in our debate?
I need to know which one you recognize so as to rebuttal your statement.
It's your God, so a definition'd be on you.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?

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[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #605]

♬It's your GOD -
Dress it up as you will
Tell us what you're thinking
Give us all a thrill
Don't be shy now - don't miss a word
What voice speaks to you? - Tell us what you heard!♬

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:10 pm What definition of "God" are we going to use in our debate?
I need to know which one you recognize so as to rebuttal your statement.
It's your God, so a definition'd be on you.
I am God. Now what are you going to do?
I am conversing with you, therefore you have your proof I exist.

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OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:10 pm
JK wrote: It's your God, so a definition'd be on you.
I am God. Now what are you going to do?
Recommend you seek professional psychiatric services.
I am conversing with you, therefore you have your proof I exist.
I have proof you may be suffering a severe psychological event.
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OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:10 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:10 pm What definition of "God" are we going to use in our debate?
I need to know which one you recognize so as to rebuttal your statement.
It's your God, so a definition'd be on you.
I am God. Now what are you going to do?
I am conversing with you, therefore you have your proof I exist.
That's something I would expect a demon to say.
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brunumb wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:50 pm
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:10 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:10 pm What definition of "God" are we going to use in our debate?
I need to know which one you recognize so as to rebuttal your statement.
It's your God, so a definition'd be on you.
I am God. Now what are you going to do?
I am conversing with you, therefore you have your proof I exist.
That's something I would expect a demon to say.
So which is it, am I God or a demon.
Be careful what you reply.

It might not turn out well for you.

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