I would very much like to get opinions on this subject. I'll provide several verses from the King James Version of the Bible, and I ask you to give me feed-back.
Jesus' words:
1) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)
2) "My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16)
3) "Neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (John 8:42)
He replied, after the Pharisees accused him of making himself God:
4) "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the SON of God?" (John 10:36)
5) "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say....Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." (John 12:49,50)
6) To his Father in prayer: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)
7) "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17)
To John in the Revelation:
8) "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God..." (Revelation 3:12)
Do these quotations show that Jesus was NOT God?
Do YOU believe that he claimed to be God?
JESUS IS NOT GOD
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Post #891OneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:32 pmkjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:44 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:08 pmIt is stated that you are to honor Jesus even as you honor the Father.kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:01 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:22 amJohn
Chapter 5
That all men should honour the Son,
even as they honour the Father.
He that honoureth not the Son honoureth
not the Father which hath sent him.
Here you admitting that you do not honor the Son as you honor the Father.
You worship the Father but not the Son.
You are in disobedience to God.[
It doesnt say worship, it says honor. Jesus is our king, we bow in obeisance to him, but more than that, we learn every teaching and obey him.
That means all this time you have been dishonoring the Father and the Son.
The truth is you do not know either one of them.
You don't even know your bible.
And you certainly do not know how to do anything in Spirit and truth,
to which is required to honor both the Father and Son in the worship of the Holy Ghost.
Curi te deft.
Only in your twisted reasonings. Proof of ones love is by-obeying the bible teaches. Do you obey? Jesus teaches--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT years of study it never stops. 5% lip service, 95% action.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Is this the Lord God( Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible,
which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:)the LORD OF LORDS?
A. Yes
B. No
lol
lol
lol
We sure are finding a lot of errors in your theology.
Your post from Revelation is about Jesus Christ. The scripture from Deuteronomy refers to Jehovah, who is the over-all Lord of lords and God of gods. Jehovah is the same God that Jesus hands over the Kingdom to at I Corinthians 15:24-28. So, even though Jesus is called King of kings and Lord of lords, there is One who is higher than he is and to whom he will subject himself completely when the end of his thousand-year reign is a reality. Read that again: I Corinthians 15:24-28.
So you see, there are no errors in my and kjw47's theology.
Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #892My God my God,onewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:54 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:32 pmkjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:44 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:08 pmIt is stated that you are to honor Jesus even as you honor the Father.kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:01 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:22 amJohn
Chapter 5
That all men should honour the Son,
even as they honour the Father.
He that honoureth not the Son honoureth
not the Father which hath sent him.
Here you admitting that you do not honor the Son as you honor the Father.
You worship the Father but not the Son.
You are in disobedience to God.[
It doesnt say worship, it says honor. Jesus is our king, we bow in obeisance to him, but more than that, we learn every teaching and obey him.
That means all this time you have been dishonoring the Father and the Son.
The truth is you do not know either one of them.
You don't even know your bible.
And you certainly do not know how to do anything in Spirit and truth,
to which is required to honor both the Father and Son in the worship of the Holy Ghost.
Curi te deft.
Only in your twisted reasonings. Proof of ones love is by-obeying the bible teaches. Do you obey? Jesus teaches--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT years of study it never stops. 5% lip service, 95% action.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Is this the Lord God( Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible,
which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:)the LORD OF LORDS?
A. Yes
B. No
lol
lol
lol
We sure are finding a lot of errors in your theology.
Your post from Revelation is about Jesus Christ. The scripture from Deuteronomy refers to Jehovah, who is the over-all Lord of lords and God of gods. Jehovah is the same God that Jesus hands over the Kingdom to at I Corinthians 15:24-28. So, even though Jesus is called King of kings and Lord of lords, there is One who is higher than he is and to whom he will subject himself completely when the end of his thousand-year reign is a reality. Read that again: I Corinthians 15:24-28.
So you see, there are no errors in my and kjw47's theology.
Make all our adversaries
as wise as you have made this man.
amen
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #893OneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:27 pmNow you are saying that angels were never immortal.kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:42 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:01 pmAngels are immortal. I need a clown in my circus, do you want to join?kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:58 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:05 pmWhen he was here as Jesus was he a man or an angel?kjw47 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:33 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:07 pmI think it is wonderful, that you believe Jesus is an angel.kjw47 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:50 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:09 pmShow me in the bible where Jesus said he was an angel.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:06 pm
I shared Jesus teachings--you rejected them because its you in darkness and do not know what he taught. Any building called-church teach little of what Jesus actually taught, i went to different ones looking for who taught what Jesus teaches, no church ever did, just very little of what he taught. Those teachers are paid to teach that religions dogma. Jw teachers teach us EVERY utterance from God as Jesus taught man must live by every utterance.
In fact show me anywhere in all the bible where anyone stated that Jesus
was and is an angel.
Firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--fact= all creation occurred at the beginning.
The one beside God during the rest of creation = Gods master worker=Jesus-He tells all he was created at Prov 8.
1Thess 4:16--Upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= its his voice.
Psalm 45:7--The Israelites knew 100% Jesus has a God-partners= Angels.
Hebrews 1:4-- He has become better than the angels because he inherited a name above theirs)-otherwise he was equal to the angels that is clearly showing.
Yes the true God=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) sent his best=Michael.
A. Man
B. Angel
Which is the truth?
There is something wrong with your thinking. All knows he was born mortal on earth.
lol
lol
lol
Now that is funny.
Angels are not immortal. Satan and his angels will be destroyed in the lake of fire. Jesus was killed while a mortal on earth, he went into the grave( Hades)for 3 days.
lol
lol
lol
1/3 of the angels rebelled and followed satan. Contrary to somes belief they will not be granted eternal life. They have already been judged to eternal destruction in the lake of fire.
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #894OneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:32 pmkjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:44 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:08 pmIt is stated that you are to honor Jesus even as you honor the Father.kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:01 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:22 amJohn
Chapter 5
That all men should honour the Son,
even as they honour the Father.
He that honoureth not the Son honoureth
not the Father which hath sent him.
Here you admitting that you do not honor the Son as you honor the Father.
You worship the Father but not the Son.
You are in disobedience to God.[
It doesnt say worship, it says honor. Jesus is our king, we bow in obeisance to him, but more than that, we learn every teaching and obey him.
That means all this time you have been dishonoring the Father and the Son.
The truth is you do not know either one of them.
You don't even know your bible.
And you certainly do not know how to do anything in Spirit and truth,
to which is required to honor both the Father and Son in the worship of the Holy Ghost.
Curi te deft.
Only in your twisted reasonings. Proof of ones love is by-obeying the bible teaches. Do you obey? Jesus teaches--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT years of study it never stops. 5% lip service, 95% action.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Is this the Lord God( Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible,
which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:)the LORD OF LORDS?
A. Yes
B. No
lol
lol
lol
We sure are finding a lot of errors in your theology.
The error is in your reasoning. Jesus didnt become king of kings and Lord of Lords until he accomplished his mission on earth. He could have failed. Jehovah is spoken of in the OT as savior and Lord of Lords. Jesus didnt become savior either until accomplishing his faithfulness to the death on earth.
Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #895I love watching you flop around like a fish out of water.kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:13 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:32 pmkjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:44 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:08 pmIt is stated that you are to honor Jesus even as you honor the Father.kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:01 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:22 amJohn
Chapter 5
That all men should honour the Son,
even as they honour the Father.
He that honoureth not the Son honoureth
not the Father which hath sent him.
Here you admitting that you do not honor the Son as you honor the Father.
You worship the Father but not the Son.
You are in disobedience to God.[
It doesnt say worship, it says honor. Jesus is our king, we bow in obeisance to him, but more than that, we learn every teaching and obey him.
That means all this time you have been dishonoring the Father and the Son.
The truth is you do not know either one of them.
You don't even know your bible.
And you certainly do not know how to do anything in Spirit and truth,
to which is required to honor both the Father and Son in the worship of the Holy Ghost.
Curi te deft.
Only in your twisted reasonings. Proof of ones love is by-obeying the bible teaches. Do you obey? Jesus teaches--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT years of study it never stops. 5% lip service, 95% action.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Is this the Lord God( Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible,
which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:)the LORD OF LORDS?
A. Yes
B. No
lol
lol
lol
We sure are finding a lot of errors in your theology.
The error is in your reasoning. Jesus didnt become king of kings and Lord of Lords until he accomplished his mission on earth. He could have failed. Jehovah is spoken of in the OT as savior and Lord of Lords. Jesus didnt become savior either until accomplishing his faithfulness to the death on earth.
You contradicted your own self with your own words.
So which one now is God, the King of Kings the Lord of Lords?
The God of the old testament or the God of the new testament?
lol
lol
lol
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #896OneWay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:04 pmI love watching you flop around like a fish out of water.kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:13 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:32 pmkjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:44 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:08 pmIt is stated that you are to honor Jesus even as you honor the Father.kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:01 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:22 amJohn
Chapter 5
That all men should honour the Son,
even as they honour the Father.
He that honoureth not the Son honoureth
not the Father which hath sent him.
Here you admitting that you do not honor the Son as you honor the Father.
You worship the Father but not the Son.
You are in disobedience to God.[
It doesnt say worship, it says honor. Jesus is our king, we bow in obeisance to him, but more than that, we learn every teaching and obey him.
That means all this time you have been dishonoring the Father and the Son.
The truth is you do not know either one of them.
You don't even know your bible.
And you certainly do not know how to do anything in Spirit and truth,
to which is required to honor both the Father and Son in the worship of the Holy Ghost.
Curi te deft.
Only in your twisted reasonings. Proof of ones love is by-obeying the bible teaches. Do you obey? Jesus teaches--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT years of study it never stops. 5% lip service, 95% action.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Is this the Lord God( Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible,
which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:)the LORD OF LORDS?
A. Yes
B. No
lol
lol
lol
We sure are finding a lot of errors in your theology.
The error is in your reasoning. Jesus didnt become king of kings and Lord of Lords until he accomplished his mission on earth. He could have failed. Jehovah is spoken of in the OT as savior and Lord of Lords. Jesus didnt become savior either until accomplishing his faithfulness to the death on earth.
You contradicted your own self with your own words.
So which one now is God, the King of Kings the Lord of Lords?
The God of the old testament or the God of the new testament?
lol
lol
lol
God gave Jesus those titles. But Jesus must hand the kingdom back to his God and Father and subject himself- sometime after the 1000 year reign. 1Cor 15:24-28-- God of the OT gave his son all authority on earth and in heaven. But that ends at 1Cor 15:24-28-
Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #897The verses you quoted do not prove this you have stated. If you think differentkjw47 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 2:39 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:04 pmI love watching you flop around like a fish out of water.kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:13 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:32 pmkjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:44 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:08 pmIt is stated that you are to honor Jesus even as you honor the Father.kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:01 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:22 amJohn
Chapter 5
That all men should honour the Son,
even as they honour the Father.
He that honoureth not the Son honoureth
not the Father which hath sent him.
Here you admitting that you do not honor the Son as you honor the Father.
You worship the Father but not the Son.
You are in disobedience to God.[
It doesnt say worship, it says honor. Jesus is our king, we bow in obeisance to him, but more than that, we learn every teaching and obey him.
That means all this time you have been dishonoring the Father and the Son.
The truth is you do not know either one of them.
You don't even know your bible.
And you certainly do not know how to do anything in Spirit and truth,
to which is required to honor both the Father and Son in the worship of the Holy Ghost.
Curi te deft.
Only in your twisted reasonings. Proof of ones love is by-obeying the bible teaches. Do you obey? Jesus teaches--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT years of study it never stops. 5% lip service, 95% action.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Is this the Lord God( Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible,
which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:)the LORD OF LORDS?
A. Yes
B. No
lol
lol
lol
We sure are finding a lot of errors in your theology.
The error is in your reasoning. Jesus didnt become king of kings and Lord of Lords until he accomplished his mission on earth. He could have failed. Jehovah is spoken of in the OT as savior and Lord of Lords. Jesus didnt become savior either until accomplishing his faithfulness to the death on earth.
You contradicted your own self with your own words.
So which one now is God, the King of Kings the Lord of Lords?
The God of the old testament or the God of the new testament?
lol
lol
lol
God gave Jesus those titles. But Jesus must hand the kingdom back to his God and Father and subject himself- sometime after the 1000 year reign. 1Cor 15:24-28-- God of the OT gave his son all authority on earth and in heaven. But that ends at 1Cor 15:24-28-
then lay out how these verses prove any of this you have stated.
Quoting random verses from the bible is not proof of anything,
except you can quote random verses from the bible.
Now you know if you try to attempt this I will easily destroy
your effort with the truth as I have done over and over and over
without fail. All you are doing is flip flopping from one side to the other
to which makes you look as I am presenting you.
A false doctrine.
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #898OneWay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:38 pmMy God my God,onewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:54 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:32 pmkjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:44 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:08 pmIt is stated that you are to honor Jesus even as you honor the Father.kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:01 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:22 amJohn
Chapter 5
That all men should honour the Son,
even as they honour the Father.
He that honoureth not the Son honoureth
not the Father which hath sent him.
Here you admitting that you do not honor the Son as you honor the Father.
You worship the Father but not the Son.
You are in disobedience to God.[
It doesnt say worship, it says honor. Jesus is our king, we bow in obeisance to him, but more than that, we learn every teaching and obey him.
That means all this time you have been dishonoring the Father and the Son.
The truth is you do not know either one of them.
You don't even know your bible.
And you certainly do not know how to do anything in Spirit and truth,
to which is required to honor both the Father and Son in the worship of the Holy Ghost.
Curi te deft.
Only in your twisted reasonings. Proof of ones love is by-obeying the bible teaches. Do you obey? Jesus teaches--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT years of study it never stops. 5% lip service, 95% action.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Is this the Lord God( Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible,
which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:)the LORD OF LORDS?
A. Yes
B. No
lol
lol
lol
We sure are finding a lot of errors in your theology.
Your post from Revelation is about Jesus Christ. The scripture from Deuteronomy refers to Jehovah, who is the over-all Lord of lords and God of gods. Jehovah is the same God that Jesus hands over the Kingdom to at I Corinthians 15:24-28. So, even though Jesus is called King of kings and Lord of lords, there is One who is higher than he is and to whom he will subject himself completely when the end of his thousand-year reign is a reality. Read that again: I Corinthians 15:24-28.
So you see, there are no errors in my and kjw47's theology.
Make all our adversaries
as wise as you have made this man.
amen
So you have nothing to contribute to the discussion and wish to ignore the post above? You can't answer with your power of reason what is written in my post? You accuse and then ignore. That is not a fair stance to take. Did you bother to read I Corinthians 15:24-28?
BTW, when you say "my God," just as Jesus did in Revelation 3:12, you are speaking of the same Person that Jesus did---Jehovah God Almighty.
Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #899Your argument s have already been defeated on this thread.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:55 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:38 pmMy God my God,onewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:54 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:32 pmkjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:44 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:08 pmIt is stated that you are to honor Jesus even as you honor the Father.kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:01 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:22 amJohn
Chapter 5
That all men should honour the Son,
even as they honour the Father.
He that honoureth not the Son honoureth
not the Father which hath sent him.
Here you admitting that you do not honor the Son as you honor the Father.
You worship the Father but not the Son.
You are in disobedience to God.[
It doesnt say worship, it says honor. Jesus is our king, we bow in obeisance to him, but more than that, we learn every teaching and obey him.
That means all this time you have been dishonoring the Father and the Son.
The truth is you do not know either one of them.
You don't even know your bible.
And you certainly do not know how to do anything in Spirit and truth,
to which is required to honor both the Father and Son in the worship of the Holy Ghost.
Curi te deft.
Only in your twisted reasonings. Proof of ones love is by-obeying the bible teaches. Do you obey? Jesus teaches--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT years of study it never stops. 5% lip service, 95% action.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Is this the Lord God( Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible,
which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:)the LORD OF LORDS?
A. Yes
B. No
lol
lol
lol
We sure are finding a lot of errors in your theology.
Your post from Revelation is about Jesus Christ. The scripture from Deuteronomy refers to Jehovah, who is the over-all Lord of lords and God of gods. Jehovah is the same God that Jesus hands over the Kingdom to at I Corinthians 15:24-28. So, even though Jesus is called King of kings and Lord of lords, there is One who is higher than he is and to whom he will subject himself completely when the end of his thousand-year reign is a reality. Read that again: I Corinthians 15:24-28.
So you see, there are no errors in my and kjw47's theology.
Make all our adversaries
as wise as you have made this man.
amen
So you have nothing to contribute to the discussion and wish to ignore the post above? You can't answer with your power of reason what is written in my post? You accuse and then ignore. That is not a fair stance to take. Did you bother to read I Corinthians 15:24-28?
BTW, when you say "my God," just as Jesus did in Revelation 3:12, you are speaking of the same Person that Jesus did---Jehovah God Almighty.
If you have not the ability to see and read them, what do I care?
I am not your nanny.
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #900OneWay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:07 pmThe verses you quoted do not prove this you have stated. If you think differentkjw47 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 2:39 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:04 pmI love watching you flop around like a fish out of water.kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:13 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:32 pmkjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:44 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:08 pmIt is stated that you are to honor Jesus even as you honor the Father.kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:01 pmOneWay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:22 amJohn
Chapter 5
That all men should honour the Son,
even as they honour the Father.
He that honoureth not the Son honoureth
not the Father which hath sent him.
Here you admitting that you do not honor the Son as you honor the Father.
You worship the Father but not the Son.
You are in disobedience to God.[
It doesnt say worship, it says honor. Jesus is our king, we bow in obeisance to him, but more than that, we learn every teaching and obey him.
That means all this time you have been dishonoring the Father and the Son.
The truth is you do not know either one of them.
You don't even know your bible.
And you certainly do not know how to do anything in Spirit and truth,
to which is required to honor both the Father and Son in the worship of the Holy Ghost.
Curi te deft.
Only in your twisted reasonings. Proof of ones love is by-obeying the bible teaches. Do you obey? Jesus teaches--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT years of study it never stops. 5% lip service, 95% action.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Is this the Lord God( Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible,
which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:)the LORD OF LORDS?
A. Yes
B. No
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We sure are finding a lot of errors in your theology.
The error is in your reasoning. Jesus didnt become king of kings and Lord of Lords until he accomplished his mission on earth. He could have failed. Jehovah is spoken of in the OT as savior and Lord of Lords. Jesus didnt become savior either until accomplishing his faithfulness to the death on earth.
You contradicted your own self with your own words.
So which one now is God, the King of Kings the Lord of Lords?
The God of the old testament or the God of the new testament?
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God gave Jesus those titles. But Jesus must hand the kingdom back to his God and Father and subject himself- sometime after the 1000 year reign. 1Cor 15:24-28-- God of the OT gave his son all authority on earth and in heaven. But that ends at 1Cor 15:24-28-
then lay out how these verses prove any of this you have stated.I have already explained this. You choose to ignore what I posted about I Corinthians 15:24-28. It is very clear what these verses mean.