Do "Knowing" And "Believing" Carry The Same Burden Of Proof?

[Miles]

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If a theist says "I know there's a god," and another theist says "I believe there's a god, do each have the same burden of proof? Why or why not?


"A burden of proof is the obligation to prove one's assertion."
source: Oxford Languages




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[Miles]

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If a theist says "I know there's a god," and another theist says "I believe there's a god, do each have the same burden of proof? Why or why not?


"A burden of proof is the obligation to prove one's assertion."
source: Oxford Languages




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Atheists "think" there is no God,

Not necessarily at all. In fact, most atheists contend that atheism is a lack of belief in a god, (that god exists).

In still waiting for them to prove their assertions.....

Then you'll first have to get hold of atheists who "'think' there is no God," and as far as I know no such atheist posts here on DC&R.

Good luck in your search.

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So you are one of the atheists that DOESbelieve in God? Cool

Nah. Just one of the atheists who is willing to concede that god may exist should reasonable evidence ever show up, but so far, nada. Unfortunately, theists simply can't step up to the plate without striking out.



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[OneWay]

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If a theist says "I know there's a god," and another theist says "I believe there's a god, do each have the same burden of proof? Why or why not?


"A burden of proof is the obligation to prove one's assertion."
source: Oxford Languages




.

Atheists "think" there is no God,

Not necessarily at all. In fact, most atheists contend that atheism is a lack of belief in a god, (that god exists).

In still waiting for them to prove their assertions.....

Then you'll first have to get hold of atheists who "'think' there is no God," and as far as I know no such atheist posts here on DC&R.

Good luck in your search.

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So you are one of the atheists that DOESbelieve in God? Cool

Nah. Just one of the atheists who is willing to concede that god may exist should reasonable evidence ever show up, but so far, nada. Unfortunately, theists simply can't step up to the plate without striking out.

prove it?

[Miles]

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If a theist says "I know there's a god," and another theist says "I believe there's a god, do each have the same burden of proof? Why or why not?


"A burden of proof is the obligation to prove one's assertion."
source: Oxford Languages




.

Atheists "think" there is no God,

Not necessarily at all. In fact, most atheists contend that atheism is a lack of belief in a god, (that god exists).

In still waiting for them to prove their assertions.....

Then you'll first have to get hold of atheists who "'think' there is no God," and as far as I know no such atheist posts here on DC&R.

Good luck in your search.

.

So you are one of the atheists that DOESbelieve in God? Cool

Nah. Just one of the atheists who is willing to concede that god may exist should reasonable evidence ever show up, but so far, nada. Unfortunately, theists simply can't step up to the plate without striking out.

prove it?

"prove it?" Assuming this is a typo of some sort, what is it you meant to say?

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[OneWay]

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If a theist says "I know there's a god," and another theist says "I believe there's a god, do each have the same burden of proof? Why or why not?


"A burden of proof is the obligation to prove one's assertion."
source: Oxford Languages




.

Atheists "think" there is no God,

Not necessarily at all. In fact, most atheists contend that atheism is a lack of belief in a god, (that god exists).

In still waiting for them to prove their assertions.....

Then you'll first have to get hold of atheists who "'think' there is no God," and as far as I know no such atheist posts here on DC&R.

Good luck in your search.

.

So you are one of the atheists that DOESbelieve in God? Cool

Nah. Just one of the atheists who is willing to concede that god may exist should reasonable evidence ever show up, but so far, nada. Unfortunately, theists simply can't step up to the plate without striking out.

prove it?

"prove it?" Assuming this is a typo of some sort, what is it you meant to say?

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That is not proof.

[Miles]

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If a theist says "I know there's a god," and another theist says "I believe there's a god, do each have the same burden of proof? Why or why not?


"A burden of proof is the obligation to prove one's assertion."
source: Oxford Languages




.

Atheists "think" there is no God,

Not necessarily at all. In fact, most atheists contend that atheism is a lack of belief in a god, (that god exists).

In still waiting for them to prove their assertions.....

Then you'll first have to get hold of atheists who "'think' there is no God," and as far as I know no such atheist posts here on DC&R.

Good luck in your search.

.

So you are one of the atheists that DOESbelieve in God? Cool

Nah. Just one of the atheists who is willing to concede that god may exist should reasonable evidence ever show up, but so far, nada. Unfortunately, theists simply can't step up to the plate without striking out.

prove it?

"prove it?" Assuming this is a typo of some sort, what is it you meant to say?

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That is not proof.

What is not proof?

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[OneWay]

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If a theist says "I know there's a god," and another theist says "I believe there's a god, do each have the same burden of proof? Why or why not?


"A burden of proof is the obligation to prove one's assertion."
source: Oxford Languages




.

Atheists "think" there is no God,

Not necessarily at all. In fact, most atheists contend that atheism is a lack of belief in a god, (that god exists).

In still waiting for them to prove their assertions.....

Then you'll first have to get hold of atheists who "'think' there is no God," and as far as I know no such atheist posts here on DC&R.

Good luck in your search.

.

So you are one of the atheists that DOESbelieve in God? Cool

Nah. Just one of the atheists who is willing to concede that god may exist should reasonable evidence ever show up, but so far, nada. Unfortunately, theists simply can't step up to the plate without striking out.

prove it?

"prove it?" Assuming this is a typo of some sort, what is it you meant to say?

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That is not proof.

What is not proof?

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Anything you cannot prove.

[PolytheistWitch]

It depends on how you approach theology in general. If you believe religion is something that can be tested by science then they are two different things because knowing would require proof and test. If you view religion the same as you would emotion-based relationships then they hold the same weight. For instance if someone said to me I believe my wife is faithful and I know my wife is faithful I would assume both those statements were equal. To me science has nothing to do with religion. Religion is not meant to be science. Our relationship with deities is what forms and continues to drive religion. Therefore someone saying knows and believes in that relationship they have with their deity is the same for me.

[William]

[Replying to PolytheistWitch in post #27]

For instance if someone said to me I believe my wife is faithful and I know my wife is faithful I would assume both those statements were equal.

To believe, is to have faith. To know, is to have evidence.

[PolytheistWitch]

[Replying to William in post #28]

If someone were to say I know my spouse is not cheating on me that would mean that they have evidence that they're not? Or would it mean that they have never found evidence that they are? Again when you look at those words in regards to relationships they don't mean the same thing as they might if you're looking at science or facts.

[William]

[Replying to PolytheistWitch in post #29]

People don't always use words correctly and do have a habit of conflating.

If someone has no evidence of something then they believe but do not know.