was Jesus fully human, or was he God in a disguise?

[Ozzy_O]

Romans 3:23
For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard.

Romans 5:12
When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.

Inerrant scripture words say all men (and women) sinned

Look up the Greek, all and everyone means all and everyone

So every HUMAN sinned per the inerrant scriptures

So, here’s the options:

A) scripture is wrong, everyone didn’t sin and is not born a filthy little sinner

B) Jesus was FULLY MAN, which would have to include sin because the Bible says so, or he wouldn’t be a spotless lamb; He made a conscious decision not to sin, and he absolutely could help it (unlike Paul’s claims in Romans 7)

C) God put on a disguise; He acted like he was fully human but he wasn’t ( in which case living a sinless life is easy for God because he spoke the universe into existence)

Philippians 2:7
….but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.

He only took on the likeness of man not his full sin nature, in which case he didn’t play by the rules for us

No Christian has ever honestly answered this question

Let’s examine the premise we have been programmed to believe and critically examine the text

It has to be all one or the other for the story they tell us to be true

The truth is uncomfortable sometimes

So, which option is least damaging to the narrative?

[TRANSPONDER]

[Replying to OneWay in post #82

There is a glass filled with water.
Some see it as half full.
Some see it as half empty.

If the glass is filled with water, I doubt that anyone will see it as half-full or half-empty.

You're not succeeding in proving to me that you're wise.

To know wisdom you first have to be wise.
I do not believe you are wise.

And I can prove it.

Never mind proving anything about me. How about proving the claims you've made in all those Random Ramblings?

Well. The only way that would sufficient
enough for you as proof, is if any of them can be proven to be false.

Have you noticed as of yet none of them have been proven to be false.
I will wait till any of them are contested, then I will do it
as they are contested.

But you have already failed, in thinking that your claims are valid unless they can be disproven. If you can't prove your claims, then you lose. The doubters do not have to disprove the claims. Your refusal toaccept the logic, denial of 'facts' and never mind screaming that nobody can disprove you in huge block capitals, only shows how you fall far short of reasoning, never mind wisdom.

Your opinion is not even true. Please stay with the facts.
Facts can be proven.

My opinion is not even relevant (neither is yours) the Fact ius that you don't do logic properly, not even basic reasoning. Thus you lose and your denial of everything is just denial and you lose even more, and your insistence that you win just makes you look worse. You can keep this up forever, I'm fine with it, because it is just damaging you and the god - case, not me and atheism.

Your opinion is not even true. Please stay with the facts.
Facts can be proven.

You have failed to prove anything. All you have done is dismiss everything I have validated as opinion.You really think that the basics of logical reasoning are just my opinion?You are making yourself look absurd. Carry on.You may think that endless denial, and we will get fed up and leave you claiming that all important last word, but I'm happy to make you look far from reasonable, let alone wise, as long as you want.

[OneWay]

A lot of irrelevant posturing lately and nothing of relevance to the topic. Could the troll(s) please retreat and allow sensible discussion to continue.

I will debate you.

God is a Spirit that entered into this dimension, your world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Jesus.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God.

Was He in disguise?

I would have to say
YES.

That is my opening statement.

I await your rebuttal.

This is just between bru and I. When I finish him then
I will debate another, one at a time.

[brunumb]

God is a Spirit that entered into this dimension, your world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Jesus.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God.

Was He in disguise?

I would have to say
YES.

NO

God is a not Spirit that entered into this dimension, our world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Mary.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God.

Was He in disguise?

I would have to say NO.

That which is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

OneWay has no right to restrict who may participate in any debate. That said, I don't intend to waste my time and follow OneWay down another rabbit hole, or troll hole as the case may be.

[OneWay]

God is a Spirit that entered into this dimension, your world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Jesus.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God.

Was He in disguise?

I would have to say
YES.

OneWay has no right to restrict who may participate in any debate. That said, I don't intend to waste my time and follow OneWay down another rabbit hole, or troll hole as the case may be.

I will just ignore them. You should learn to think before you post.

[OneWay]

God is a Spirit that entered into this dimension, your world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Jesus.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God.

Was He in disguise?

I would have to say
YES.

NO

God is a not Spirit that entered into this dimension, our world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Mary.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God.

Was He in disguise?

I would have to say NO.

Why do you believe this you have stated to me?
I am going to assume you are stating what you believe.

[JoeyKnothead]

Notice how it goes from making claims, straight to inquizitating someone about their beliefs.

No attempt at all to put truth to claims one makes.

I'm convinced there's a toll to cross this bridge.

[OneWay]

Notice how it goes from making claims, straight to inquizitating someone about their beliefs.

No attempt at all to put truth to claims one makes.

I'm convinced there's a toll to cross this bridge.

Yes, I noticed this about you and your compadres
when I first started posting on this forum.

But you do have one thing right.

wow

you finally got something right.

IT IS GOING TO COST YOU.

[JoeyKnothead]

Notice how it goes from making claims, straight to inquizitating someone about their beliefs.

No attempt at all to put truth to claims one makes.

I'm convinced there's a toll to cross this bridge.

Yes, I noticed this about you and your compadres
when I first started posting on this forum.

But you do have one thing right.

wow

you finally got something right.

IT IS GOING TO COST YOU.

Ooh scary

[brunumb]

Notice how it goes from making claims, straight to inquizitating someone about their beliefs.

No attempt at all to put truth to claims one makes.

I'm convinced there's a toll to cross this bridge.

Yes, I noticed this about you and your compadres
when I first started posting on this forum.

But you do have one thing right.

wow

you finally got something right.

IT IS GOING TO COST YOU.

Ooh scary

Not to worry. The Three Billy Goats Gruff will help you.

[Ozzy_O]

A lot of irrelevant posturing lately and nothing of relevance to the topic. Could the troll(s) please retreat and allow sensible discussion to continue.

I will debate you.

God is a Spirit that entered into this dimension, your world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Jesus.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God.

Was He in disguise?

I would have to say
YES.

That is my opening statement.

I await your rebuttal.

This is just between bru and I. When I finish him then
I will debate another, one at a time.

False

You said:
"God is a Spirit that entered into this dimension, your world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Jesus.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God."

He entered this world by the union f His spirit with a wm And by the name of Mary, her name wasn't Jesus