Jesus says that those who hear His word and do not keep it are condemned.
John 12:47,48
“Anyone who hears my word and does not keep it I am not the one to condemn him for I did not come to condemn the world I came to save it. Anyone who rejects me and does not accept my word he already has his judge namely the words I’ve spoken that’s what will condemn him on the last day.”
So keeping His word is accepting it.
Jesus said He kept God’s word. He also said He came to spread it. So by His standards keeping God’s word is spreading it.
Do you keep God’s word as Jesus did? Or are you condemned?
The condemned?
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Post #2In Leviticus 20:13 god said “If a man has sexual relations with another man as with a woman, they have committed a terrible sin. They must be put to death."Bobcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:25 pm Jesus says that those who hear His word and do not keep it are condemned.
John 12:47,48
“Anyone who hears my word and does not keep it I am not the one to condemn him for I did not come to condemn the world I came to save it. Anyone who rejects me and does not accept my word he already has his judge namely the words I’ve spoken that’s what will condemn him on the last day.”
So keeping His word is accepting it.
Jesus said He kept God’s word. He also said He came to spread it. So by His standards keeping God’s word is spreading it.
Do you keep God’s word as Jesus did? Or are you condemned?
So I can only conclude that Jesus killed his share of such sinful men. Now, I haven't killed any man who has sexual relations with another man as with a woman, so I guess I'm condemned, although, I'm not dead yet, so I do have time to redeem myself. How about yourself, Bobcat? Have you kept god's word and put to death a practicing homosexual man yet?
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Post #3[Replying to Bobcat in post #1]
Bobcat, you are absolutely right in saying that keeping Jesus' word is spreading it. He assigned all true Christians the work of going out and finding people to share his good news with. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:19,20; Acts 20:20)
Bobcat, you are absolutely right in saying that keeping Jesus' word is spreading it. He assigned all true Christians the work of going out and finding people to share his good news with. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:19,20; Acts 20:20)
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Post #4[Replying to Miles in post #2]
The homosexual would have been put to death by the courts that upheld God's Law. Not by any individual. These days the courts don't kill homosexuals and Jesus admonished everyone to obey the laws of the land. Practicing homosexuals will be taken care of by Jesus when he comes back in Kingdom power.
The homosexual would have been put to death by the courts that upheld God's Law. Not by any individual. These days the courts don't kill homosexuals and Jesus admonished everyone to obey the laws of the land. Practicing homosexuals will be taken care of by Jesus when he comes back in Kingdom power.
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Post #5Your source of information please.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:03 am [Replying to Miles in post #2]
The homosexual would have been put to death by the courts that upheld God's Law. Not by any individual. These days the courts don't kill homosexuals and Jesus admonished everyone to obey the laws of the land. Practicing homosexuals will be taken care of by Jesus when he comes back in Kingdom power.
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Post #6How i interpret that, is who or what does the condemning apeears to be the individual personality re actions.
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Post #7Peace to you,
See John 8:1-11.
Peace again.
What do you mean by 'taken care of'?onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:03 am [Replying to Miles in post #2]
The homosexual would have been put to death by the courts that upheld God's Law. Not by any individual. These days the courts don't kill homosexuals and Jesus admonished everyone to obey the laws of the land. Practicing homosexuals will be taken care of by Jesus when he comes back in Kingdom power.
See John 8:1-11.
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Post #8What you are describing is not keeping God’s word. Read the OP again.Miles wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:17 pmIn Leviticus 20:13 god said “If a man has sexual relations with another man as with a woman, they have committed a terrible sin. They must be put to death."Bobcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:25 pm Jesus says that those who hear His word and do not keep it are condemned.
John 12:47,48
“Anyone who hears my word and does not keep it I am not the one to condemn him for I did not come to condemn the world I came to save it. Anyone who rejects me and does not accept my word he already has his judge namely the words I’ve spoken that’s what will condemn him on the last day.”
So keeping His word is accepting it.
Jesus said He kept God’s word. He also said He came to spread it. So by His standards keeping God’s word is spreading it.
Do you keep God’s word as Jesus did? Or are you condemned?
So I can only conclude that Jesus killed his share of such sinful men. Now, I haven't killed any man who has sexual relations with another man as with a woman, so I guess I'm condemned, although, I'm not dead yet, so I do have time to redeem myself. How about yourself, Bobcat? Have you kept god's word and put to death a practicing homosexual man yet?
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Post #9Okay, I read the OP's two questions, which is what you put up for debate:Bobcat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:58 pmWhat you are describing is not keeping God’s word. Read the OP again.Miles wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:17 pmIn Leviticus 20:13 god said “If a man has sexual relations with another man as with a woman, they have committed a terrible sin. They must be put to death."Bobcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:25 pm Jesus says that those who hear His word and do not keep it are condemned.
John 12:47,48
“Anyone who hears my word and does not keep it I am not the one to condemn him for I did not come to condemn the world I came to save it. Anyone who rejects me and does not accept my word he already has his judge namely the words I’ve spoken that’s what will condemn him on the last day.”
So keeping His word is accepting it.
Jesus said He kept God’s word. He also said He came to spread it. So by His standards keeping God’s word is spreading it.
Do you keep God’s word as Jesus did? Or are you condemned?
So I can only conclude that Jesus killed his share of such sinful men. Now, I haven't killed any man who has sexual relations with another man as with a woman, so I guess I'm condemned, although, I'm not dead yet, so I do have time to redeem myself. How about yourself, Bobcat? Have you kept god's word and put to death a practicing homosexual man yet?
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Q 1a. Do you keep God’s word
n..1b. as Jesus did?
Q 2. Or are you condemned?
A 1a. One of god's words: Leviticus 20:13 where god said: “If a man has sexual relations with another man as with a woman, they have committed a terrible sin. They must be put to death."
...1b. re. "as Jesus did" The implication being that in keeping god's word Jesus put to death "a man [who] has sexual relations with another man as with a woman"
A 2. Not personally having "put to death "a man [who] has sexual relations with another man as with a woman" I guess I would necessarily be condemned.
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Post #10[Replying to Miles in post #9]
Here. Read the bolded.
Jesus says that those who hear His word and do not keep it are condemned.
John 12:47,48
“Anyone who hears my word and does not keep it I am not the one to condemn him for I did not come to condemn the world I came to save it. Anyone who rejects me and does not accept my word he already has his judge namely the words I’ve spoken that’s what will condemn him on the last day.”
So keeping His word is accepting it.
Jesus said He kept God’s word. He also said He came to spread it. So by His standards keeping God’s word is spreading it.
Here. Read the bolded.
Jesus says that those who hear His word and do not keep it are condemned.
John 12:47,48
“Anyone who hears my word and does not keep it I am not the one to condemn him for I did not come to condemn the world I came to save it. Anyone who rejects me and does not accept my word he already has his judge namely the words I’ve spoken that’s what will condemn him on the last day.”
So keeping His word is accepting it.
Jesus said He kept God’s word. He also said He came to spread it. So by His standards keeping God’s word is spreading it.