The Debilitating Effect of Taking Genesis Literally

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The Debilitating Effect of Taking Genesis Literally

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The proposition for debate is that when one takes the tales of Genesis literally, one becomes intellectually disabled, at least temporarily. Taking Genesis literally requires one to reject biology (which includes evolution) and other sciences in favor of 'magic.' Geology and radiometric dating have to be rejected since the Earth formed only about 6000 years ago, during the same week the Earth was made (in a single day).

Much of the debate in the topic of Science and Religion consists of theists who insist on a literal interpretation of Genesis rejecting basic science. Most of the resulting debates are not worth engaging in.
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Re: The Debilitating Effect of Taking Genesis Literally

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dad1 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:10 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:06 pm
dad1 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:12 pm You can't comment on whether such claims are false or true, except by faith and opinion.
Your comment here does nothing to refute my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
You have no way to know supernatural. You are guessing based on squat. (and doing so in the face or overwhelming evidence from all places and all ages)
:? Say what? If Joey has ho way of knowing the supernatural, how does anyone?
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brunumb wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:21 pm
dad1 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:10 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:06 pm
dad1 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:12 pm You can't comment on whether such claims are false or true, except by faith and opinion.
Your comment here does nothing to refute my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
You have no way to know supernatural. You are guessing based on squat. (and doing so in the face or overwhelming evidence from all places and all ages)
:? Say what? If Joey has no way of knowing the supernatural, how does anyone?
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JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:25 pm
dad1 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:17 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:47 pm
dad1 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:32 pm
dad1 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:30 pm I disagree.
Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
I disagree
Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
I disagree
See my quoted comment above.

I point out that putting truth to supernatural claims'd sure make me look wrong in my assertion.
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dad1 wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:12 am
JoeyKnothead wrote: See my quoted comment above.

I point out that putting truth to supernatural claims'd sure make me look wrong in my assertion.
That's nice
Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
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JoeyKnothead wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:22 am
dad1 wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:12 am
JoeyKnothead wrote: See my quoted comment above.

I point out that putting truth to supernatural claims'd sure make me look wrong in my assertion.
That's nice
Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
Jesus took care of that, thanks. You have no way to prove me wrong. Or right. So feel free to parrot away.

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dad1 wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:27 am
JoeyKnothead wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:22 am
dad1 wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:12 am
JoeyKnothead wrote: See my quoted comment above.

I point out that putting truth to supernatural claims'd sure make me look wrong in my assertion.
That's nice
Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
Jesus took care of that, thanks. You have no way to prove me wrong. Or right. So feel free to parrot away.
Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
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JoeyKnothead wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:51 am
dad1 wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:27 am
JoeyKnothead wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:22 am
dad1 wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:12 am
JoeyKnothead wrote: See my quoted comment above.

I point out that putting truth to supernatural claims'd sure make me look wrong in my assertion.
That's nice
Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
Jesus took care of that, thanks. You have no way to prove me wrong. Or right. So feel free to parrot away.
Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
They already have truth. No need for me to mix more in. What has no truth is anyone claiming there is no supernatural.

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dad1 wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:56 am They already have truth. No need for me to mix more in. What has no truth is anyone claiming there is no supernatural.
Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
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Re: The Debilitating Effect of Taking Genesis Literally

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Diogenes wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:12 pm The proposition for debate is that when one takes the tales of Genesis literally, one becomes intellectually disabled, at least temporarily. Taking Genesis literally requires one to reject biology (which includes evolution) and other sciences in favor of 'magic.' Geology and radiometric dating have to be rejected since the Earth formed only about 6000 years ago, during the same week the Earth was made (in a single day).

Much of the debate in the topic of Science and Religion consists of theists who insist on a literal interpretation of Genesis rejecting basic science. Most of the resulting debates are not worth engaging in.
This is somewhat true, but it is more than just taking Genesis literally. I can take Aesop's fables literally without committing myself to believing frogs talk. It is not like the fable is a metaphor, say the one of the Ox and the frogs. It is a story I read literally, I don't read it metaphorically. I read the words to mean exactly what they state. I just happen to know that what the words stated are about a fantasy world, not our actual world.

So the problem comes when someone reads Genesis as though everything it says is about the actual world. They read it as though it were a history book, or even sometimes as though it were a book of science, which is it not.

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