The proposition for debate is that when one takes the tales of Genesis literally, one becomes intellectually disabled, at least temporarily. Taking Genesis literally requires one to reject biology (which includes evolution) and other sciences in favor of 'magic.' Geology and radiometric dating have to be rejected since the Earth formed only about 6000 years ago, during the same week the Earth was made (in a single day).
Much of the debate in the topic of Science and Religion consists of theists who insist on a literal interpretation of Genesis rejecting basic science. Most of the resulting debates are not worth engaging in.
The Debilitating Effect of Taking Genesis Literally
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Post #741Say what? If Joey has ho way of knowing the supernatural, how does anyone?dad1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:10 pmYou have no way to know supernatural. You are guessing based on squat. (and doing so in the face or overwhelming evidence from all places and all ages)JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:06 pmYour comment here does nothing to refute my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
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Post #742Really.brunumb wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:21 pmSay what? If Joey has no way of knowing the supernatural, how does anyone?dad1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:10 pmYou have no way to know supernatural. You are guessing based on squat. (and doing so in the face or overwhelming evidence from all places and all ages)JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:06 pmYour comment here does nothing to refute my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
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Post #743That's niceJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:25 pmSee my quoted comment above.dad1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:17 pmI disagreeJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:47 pmNothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
I point out that putting truth to supernatural claims'd sure make me look wrong in my assertion.
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Post #744Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
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Post #745Jesus took care of that, thanks. You have no way to prove me wrong. Or right. So feel free to parrot away.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:22 amNothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
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Post #746Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.dad1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:27 amJesus took care of that, thanks. You have no way to prove me wrong. Or right. So feel free to parrot away.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:22 amNothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
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Post #747They already have truth. No need for me to mix more in. What has no truth is anyone claiming there is no supernatural.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:51 amNothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.dad1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:27 amJesus took care of that, thanks. You have no way to prove me wrong. Or right. So feel free to parrot away.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:22 amNothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
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Post #748Nothing in your comment here refutes my assertion that you can't put truth to supernatural claims.
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Post #750This is somewhat true, but it is more than just taking Genesis literally. I can take Aesop's fables literally without committing myself to believing frogs talk. It is not like the fable is a metaphor, say the one of the Ox and the frogs. It is a story I read literally, I don't read it metaphorically. I read the words to mean exactly what they state. I just happen to know that what the words stated are about a fantasy world, not our actual world.Diogenes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:12 pm The proposition for debate is that when one takes the tales of Genesis literally, one becomes intellectually disabled, at least temporarily. Taking Genesis literally requires one to reject biology (which includes evolution) and other sciences in favor of 'magic.' Geology and radiometric dating have to be rejected since the Earth formed only about 6000 years ago, during the same week the Earth was made (in a single day).
Much of the debate in the topic of Science and Religion consists of theists who insist on a literal interpretation of Genesis rejecting basic science. Most of the resulting debates are not worth engaging in.
So the problem comes when someone reads Genesis as though everything it says is about the actual world. They read it as though it were a history book, or even sometimes as though it were a book of science, which is it not.