There are many verses in the Bible about God's predestination. https://www.openbible.info/topics/predestination Why would a good God predestine anyone to do evil? Surely, a good God would predestine all to do good? Does the existence of evil prove that God is evil? Surely, a good God would have made all living things to be autotrophs instead of making some autotrophs, some herbivores, some carnivores, some omnivores, and some parasites? Here are some examples of evil events which caused or are causing suffering, deaths, and injustices:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_n ... death_toll
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_g ... death_toll
https://thevegancalculator.com/animal-slaughter
Is God evil?
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Post #141[Replying to Compassionist in post #139
Flat-earthers don't ignore those phenomena; they simply dismiss them as "illusion"----while preferring illusions of their own.The people who believe that the Earth is flat ignore direct perceptions of the curvature of the Earth from high up on a skyscraper or a mountain or a plane or a helicopter. Also, they ignore the direct perception that the mast of a ship appears as a tiny dot across the horizon and gradually gets taller as the ship gets closer to the port. This happens due to the curvature of the Earth.
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Post #142I have decided to not be an Agnostic Atheist anymore. I have become just an Agnostic. I can't decide if God is imaginary or real. I also can't decide if God is good or evil. I also can't decide if solipsism is true or if dualism is true or if monism is true or if materialism is true or if idealism is true or if naive realism is true. I wish I could know for sure what exists and what does not exist. I miss the comfort of being religious but experience too much cognitive dissonance to return to religion. It's a Catch-22. I have studied the top 12 religions and can't decide if any of them is at all true. I wish I was never conceived. I find life too hard.
I watched this video
about whether the past and the future exist. I am so confused by it all.
I watched this video
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Post #143Try flipping it around and considering all the wondrous, mysterious, intriguing possibilities encompassed by not knowing!Compassionist wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:24 pm I have decided to not be an Agnostic Atheist anymore. I have become just an Agnostic. I can't decide if God is imaginary or real. I also can't decide if God is good or evil. I also can't decide if solipsism is true or if dualism is true or if monism is true or if materialism is true or if idealism is true or if naive realism is true. I wish I could know for sure what exists and what does not exist. I miss the comfort of being religious but experience too much cognitive dissonance to return to religion. It's a Catch-22. I have studied the top 12 religions and can't decide if any of them is at all true. I wish I was never conceived. I find life too hard.
I watched this video
about whether the past and the future exist. I am so confused by it all.
Re: Is God evil?
Post #144It's silly to ask if God is evil IMO because he created the concept of evil vs good.
But a God who requires you be his sychophants else you burn in hell is certainly a psychopath.
That isn't the act of a loving God. But a tyrant.
When you add to that our rates are determined before we are a twinkle in our fathers eye. You certainly have to question his benevolence.
I believe God has people fooled on this point because everyone refers to the Bible when questioning Christianity.
But if you ignore scripture and look at him objectively, he is a supercunt. Apologies for the profanity but that's what he is.
He's not even an interesting guy. He's a jerk.
I am going to create a world that requires a saviour.
Why not create one that doesn't?
Then I'm going to give you that saviour.
And guess who it is.....
Yep...me.
And everyone worships him or gets eternal torture.
How absurd. If it wasn't real it'd be laughable.
He created good vs evil in order to justify burning some of us. He may aswell judge us on whether we prefer apples to oranges for all the sense it makes.
Then burns some and takes the rest to heaven with him based on a predestined fate we have no control over.
But a God who requires you be his sychophants else you burn in hell is certainly a psychopath.
That isn't the act of a loving God. But a tyrant.
When you add to that our rates are determined before we are a twinkle in our fathers eye. You certainly have to question his benevolence.
I believe God has people fooled on this point because everyone refers to the Bible when questioning Christianity.
But if you ignore scripture and look at him objectively, he is a supercunt. Apologies for the profanity but that's what he is.
He's not even an interesting guy. He's a jerk.
I am going to create a world that requires a saviour.
Why not create one that doesn't?
Then I'm going to give you that saviour.
And guess who it is.....
Yep...me.
And everyone worships him or gets eternal torture.
How absurd. If it wasn't real it'd be laughable.
He created good vs evil in order to justify burning some of us. He may aswell judge us on whether we prefer apples to oranges for all the sense it makes.
Then burns some and takes the rest to heaven with him based on a predestined fate we have no control over.
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Post #146You're not ignoring scripture when you refer to a God who builds a world requiring a savior and creates good and evil to justify burning people. That's a concept of God which scripture might give you. If your concept of God were broader, you wouldn't have those issues.Davado wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:17 pm It's silly to ask if God is evil IMO because he created the concept of evil vs good.
But a God who requires you be his sychophants else you burn in hell is certainly a psychopath.
That isn't the act of a loving God. But a tyrant.
When you add to that our rates are determined before we are a twinkle in our fathers eye. You certainly have to question his benevolence.
I believe God has people fooled on this point because everyone refers to the Bible when questioning Christianity.
But if you ignore scripture and look at him objectively, he is a supercunt. Apologies for the profanity but that's what he is.
He's not even an interesting guy. He's a jerk.
I am going to create a world that requires a saviour.
Why not create one that doesn't?
Then I'm going to give you that saviour.
And guess who it is.....
Yep...me.
And everyone worships him or gets eternal torture.
How absurd. If it wasn't real it'd be laughable.
He created good vs evil in order to justify burning some of us. He may aswell judge us on whether we prefer apples to oranges for all the sense it makes.
Then burns some and takes the rest to heaven with him based on a predestined fate we have no control over.
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Post #149Is God evil?
I don't know him, that I can rightly tell.
This site is a great example of gods being reflective of their promoters. I look at the loving and caring theists, and worship their gods. Then I look at the hateful theists, and spit on theirs.
I don't know him, that I can rightly tell.
This site is a great example of gods being reflective of their promoters. I look at the loving and caring theists, and worship their gods. Then I look at the hateful theists, and spit on theirs.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
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Post #150Brilliant is the mind that sees the universe, and becomes confused.Compassionist wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:24 pm I have decided to not be an Agnostic Atheist anymore. I have become just an Agnostic. I can't decide if God is imaginary or real. I also can't decide if God is good or evil. I also can't decide if solipsism is true or if dualism is true or if monism is true or if materialism is true or if idealism is true or if naive realism is true. I wish I could know for sure what exists and what does not exist. I miss the comfort of being religious but experience too much cognitive dissonance to return to religion. It's a Catch-22. I have studied the top 12 religions and can't decide if any of them is at all true. I wish I was never conceived. I find life too hard.
I watched this video
about whether the past and the future exist. I am so confused by it all.
Dull is the mind that sees it, and thinks he understands.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
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