Mormon Or Jehovah's Witness?

[SacredBishop]

I can't make up my mind. Should I be a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness. Both religions sound very reasonable to me, but unfortunately neither are in my city. I would have to move, but first I need to decide which religion is correct.

Joseph Smith or Joseph Rutherford? They were both extremely intelligent men, and certainly well respected by their peers. I know every other Christian denomination is horribly wrong, and full of heresies. Help me decide. Which religion is correct?

I believe the Bible predicted the church would be restored to glory in the 1800s in America. Both religions originated in the 1800s, thus my dilemma.

[Ross]

What the bible prophecied was a restauration of the true church after a long period of spiritual darkness. This would be after the establishment of Gods kingdom in 1914.

Where does the Bible say this please?
I am assuming you mean restoration, rather than restauration as in a restaurant of spiritual food?

[SacredBishop]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #38]

You are correct. I looked it up and the Tetragrammaton is considered unknown in JehovahsWitness beliefs. Jehovah is used for its familiarity as you said. I must say, of all Christians on this site, you are the most thorough and articulate

[Ross]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #38]

You are correct. I looked it up and the Tetragrammaton is considered unknown in JehovahsWitness beliefs. Jehovah is used for its familiarity as you said. I must say, of all Christians on this site, you are the most thorough and articulate

The Jehovah's Witnesses are obliged to all believe exactly the same as each other, with the threat of excommunication for any diversion from this. Every verse in the Bible has been analysed and commented on over a hundred years or so by generations of their theologians and the conclusions recorded, together with any and all argumentation against such beliefs. When one asks them a question, you are getting this information relayed. They have never individually worked anything out in their own minds. It is all accepted mind programming. This is why it appears so thorough and articulate.

[Miles]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #38]

You are correct. I looked it up and the Tetragrammaton is considered unknown in JehovahsWitness beliefs. Jehovah is used for its familiarity as you said. I must say, of all Christians on this site, you are the most thorough and articulate

The Jehovah's Witnesses are obliged to all believe exactly the same as each other, with the threat of excommunication for any diversion from this. Every verse in the Bible has been analysed and commented on over a hundred years or so by generations of their theologians and the conclusions recorded, together with any and all argumentation against such beliefs. When one asks them a question, you are getting this information relayed. They have never individually worked anything out in their own minds. It is all accepted mind programming. This is why it appears so thorough and articulate.

Evidently this is why I sometimes get very screwy, irrelevant responses from them. On size does not fit all.

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[Tcg]

[Replying to Tcg in post #33]
Depends on what the Mormons say. I'm still waiting for them to weigh in. Perhaps, Mormons pronounce the Tetragrammaton differently. I'm assuming JehovahsWitnesses would say the Jews were wrong about Jesus, so maybe they're wrong about the Tetragrammaton too. I need both sides.

You need the Mormons to weigh in before you can decide whether or not the JWs are right about the Jews being wrong about their own language? I don't see the relevance.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #38]

You are correct. I looked it up and the Tetragrammaton is considered unknown in JehovahsWitness beliefs. Jehovah is used for its familiarity as you said. I must say, of all Christians on this site, you are the most thorough and articulate

@ ROSS, thank you for pointing out the spelling error (duly corrected).

Re: 1914 I dont know if you are familiar with the concept of time prophecies, but there are a number of prophecies in the bible that enable readers to calculate specific years connected to future biblical events. The year itself does not appear but its like a map with specific "landmarks" which lead to identify a year in advance. See links (GENTILE TIMES) below for further details (basic maths required).

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LAST DAYS and ...THE GENTILE TIMES and ....1914

GLOSSARY OF TERMS [END TIMES]

[JehovahsWitness]

IS IT ACADEMICALLY RECOGNISED THAT THE ORIGINAL PRONUNCIATION OF THE TETRATRAMMATON HAS BEEN LOST?


Author David John Alfred Clines, biblical scholar

With the Temple being destroyed and the prohibition on pronouncing The Name outside of the Temple in force, the pronunciation of the Name fell into disuse. Scholars passed down knowledge of the correct pronunciation of YHVH for many generations, but eventually it was lost in common usage - https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Hebrew_ ... me/History

Because the original Hebrew texts only included consonants, the correct pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton may have been lost. - hNew World Encyclopedia

To learn more please go to other posts related to ...


THE DIVINE NAME , PRONUNCIATION and ...NWT

[JehovahsWitness]

They [Jehovahs witnesses] have never individually worked anything out in their own minds. It is all accepted mind programming. ...

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and I can assure you that your statement is not true for myself. And unless you are employing your own mind-reading skills, I do belive your blanket statement you cannot prove otherwise.

...This is why it appears so thorough and articulate.

When I quote someone else's words, I do so using "< --quotation marks --> " and try always to include a source, otherwise, all the words you read in my posts are my own. If my posts do appear " thorough and articulate" I can but thank you for the compliment and Mr Clegg my high school English teacher that instilled in me a love of good writing in the first place.(Although he'd be spinning in his grave because I still can't spell worth a dime)

Every verse in the Bible has been analysed and commented on over a hundred years or so by generations of their theologians and the conclusions recorded, together with any and all argumentation against such beliefs. ...

Yes, what you've outlined are the basic principles upon which "acedemia" is built (or it was before google). Whether one is studying poetry, brain surgery or how to dance the watusi research involves accessing the cumulative body of knowledge, commentaries and observations in any given field. What one does with that knowledged is called education.

Generally not considered a bad thing.


JW

[kjw47]

I can't make up my mind. Should I be a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness. Both religions sound very reasonable to me, but unfortunately neither are in my city. I would have to move, but first I need to decide which religion is correct.

Joseph Smith or Joseph Rutherford? They were both extremely intelligent men, and certainly well respected by their peers. I know every other Christian denomination is horribly wrong, and full of heresies. Help me decide. Which religion is correct?

I believe the Bible predicted the church would be restored to glory in the 1800s in America. Both religions originated in the 1800s, thus my dilemma.

C.T.Russell was the only man on earth that saw the prophecy from Daniel of Rev 6:1 ( establishment of Gods kingdom in heaven with Jesus ruling) occurring in 1914. The prophecy was-From the removal of the last king(destruction of Jerusalem) in 607 bce 2520 years=1914. He saw that in 1879 and said-Peace will be taken from the earth in 1914( Rev 6:4)--He thought it was Rev 19:11-14 but it was actually the war in heavens start. Satan and his angels lost and were cast to the earth. He came angry, knowing his time was short. He filled mens hearts with hatred-ww1-millions upon millions slaughtered, the other 3 riders rode as well. After ww1, between 50-100 million died just from the spanish flu, many more died of other things mentioned of those 3 riders. C.T.Russell started the bible students-these became the Jehovah witnesses.

[SacredBishop]

IS IT ACADEMICALLY RECOGNISED THAT THE ORIGINAL PRONUNCIATION OF THE TETRATRAMMATON HAS BEEN LOST?


Author David John Alfred Clines, biblical scholar

With the Temple being destroyed and the prohibition on pronouncing The Name outside of the Temple in force, the pronunciation of the Name fell into disuse. Scholars passed down knowledge of the correct pronunciation of YHVH for many generations, but eventually it was lost in common usage - https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Hebrew_ ... me/History

Because the original Hebrew texts only included consonants, the correct pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton may have been lost. - hNew World Encyclopedia

To learn more please go to other posts related to ...


THE DIVINE NAME , PRONUNCIATION and ...NWT

Its believed some Kohen ( priests) have preserved the pronunciation. I saw a documentary about it. I can't remember the name. Anyway, the name is believed to be preserved by a few priests. Aside note, Josephus said the Tetragrammaton is four syllables. Google it. If it is four syllables everybody was wrong. Yehavahu I guess.