Is the holy spirit a living being?

[kjw47]

Is the holy spirit a living being with equality to the Father and son? Lets look at bible facts.

1) The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) the son has a name Jesus-Holy spirit-0
2) The Father seen on a throne, the son seen on a throne-Holy spirit-0
3)The Father shares certain things with the son-Holy spirit-0
4)Many very important passages in NT where only the Father and son are spoken of-holy spirit-2
The most important one being John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus. Holy spirit-0

No is the answer i see. How about you?

The new Catholic encyclopedia 1967 Vol XIII Page 575-- The majority of NT texts reveal Gods spirit as something not someone.

[kjw47]

Gods sons name is Jesus--The holy spirit descended from heaven at Jesus baptism(Matt 3:16) like a dove proving it is not Jesus.

I'm sorry, that doesn't prove what you would like for it to. There are far too many verses that contradict your proposed position.

Luke 24:27
John 14:21-23
Romans 8:9-11
2 Peter 1:21

... and many more.

Many false doctrines are built upon a single verse of Scripture that is contradicted many places throughout.

All sound doctrine coincides with the Bible in its entirety.

Jesus Christ IS the Holy Spirit and that FACT is supported throughout the Bible.

Not in reality

The REAL Bible.

You are wrong--Trinity translations are altered and filled with errors. It is the reason why they have become a house divided, they will not stand=a mass of confusion caused it.

[kjw47]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #71]

Good! You believe God is living, and you believe God is Spirit. Me too!

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2). Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead?

Its his active force. His power.

[MissKate13]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #71]

Good! You believe God is living, and you believe God is Spirit. Me too!

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2). Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead?

Its his active force. His power.

You did not answer my question.

Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead? Yes? No?

[Runner]

This - the bold - is correct (even if not quite complete):

Christ is the Spirit. Christ is the HOLY One of God. Ergo: Christ is the Holy Spirit.

That being said, 'holy spirit' is often referring to the breath/blood/seed of JAH. That is the holy spirit that Christ breathed upon His apostles (John 20:22). Christ did not breath Himself onto the apostles (nor did He breathe any other person onto the apostles). Unless holy spirit is referring to Christ (for the most part that I know of), then it is referring to the breath/blood/seed of JAH. <- This is what Christ anoints His people with, it is what He baptizes us with; and makes us SONS with, and it is also the WATER that He invites us to come to Him and drink (for FREE). This is what God breathed into Adam (obviously, it is the breath of God.)

The problem in what is written is that the scribes always personified holy spirit as if it was a third person in the trinity, because that is what was already believed. And that has created confusion.




Peace again to you all,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

Do you have an example of the scribes personifying the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit IS a person, to be clear. It is Jesus Christ. Romans 8:9-11; John 14:21-23 -It just isn't a third person. It is the ONLY person. God is ONE and He is Christ, who IS the Holy Spirit. They ARE a Spirit. John 4:24 And they are ONE person.

I think I agree with all of the above, but the trinity concept wasn't believed by any of them until around the time the Roman Catholic Church was instituted. They mixed existing pagan beliefs with their false religion to create the concept of the trinity and then spend the last ~2000 years forcing this idea, that nobody could make any sense of, down the people's throats. MANY True Bible-believing Christians who refused to accept/embrace such heresy were brutally tortured and killed all over the world in the Inquisitions that lasted hundreds of, if not over a thousand, years. They ended in the late 1800's.

The story that people already believed in a trinity prior to the time of the Nicene Creed and the formation of the RCC is an absolute lie. The proof is in the total absence of any teaching from Christ on such a concept. Matt. 28:19 is a faulty proof text for anything to do with the trinity debate as there is not a single example of any of Christ's disciples baptizing anybody with this recipe. Every baptism in the Bible uses the "in the Name of Jesus Christ" recipe. The trinity is a blasphemous lie and those who study it out in Scripture come away with a very clear confirmation of that. The majority of the OT is a testament against any concept of God being three people.

[Runner]

You are wrong--Trinity translations are altered and filled with errors. It is the reason why they have become a house divided, they will not stand=a mass of confusion caused it.

I am correct.

No trinity.

[kjw47]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #71]

Good! You believe God is living, and you believe God is Spirit. Me too!

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2). Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead?

Its his active force. His power.

You did not answer my question.

Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead? Yes? No?

Are you talking about God or the holy spirit?

[MissKate13]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #71]

Good! You believe God is living, and you believe God is Spirit. Me too!

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2). Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead?

Its his active force. His power.

You did not answer my question.

Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead? Yes? No?

Are you talking about God or the holy spirit?

The Spirit of God from Gen. 1:2, and numerous other passages -

Is the Spirit of God dead? Yes? No?

[MissKate13]

[Replying to Runner in post #85]

The term trinity is not found in Scripture. However, Father, Son and Holy Spirit are each referred to as GOD.

We are told in Colossians 2:9 that the fullness of deity dwelled in Jesus.

Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. (KJV)

[Eloi]

Trinity is a set of three:

1) God, the Father
2) the Son of God the Father
3) the spirit of God the Father

So, is it the trinity God? Of course NO, since God is THE FATHER:

1 Cor. 8:6; Gal. 1:1; Eph. 6:23; Phil. 2:11; Col. 1:3; 3:17; 1 These. 1:1; 2 Thess. 1:2; 1 Tim. 1:2; 2 Tim. 1:2; Tit. 1:4; 1 Pet. 1:2; 2 Pet. 1:17; 2 John 3; Jude 1:1; etc etc etc.

[kjw47]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #71]

Good! You believe God is living, and you believe God is Spirit. Me too!

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2). Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead?

Its his active force. His power.

You did not answer my question.

Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead? Yes? No?

Are you talking about God or the holy spirit?

The Spirit of God from Gen. 1:2, and numerous other passages -

Is the Spirit of God dead? Yes? No?

Gen 1:2 is the holy spirit--It is Gods active force not a living being.