Is the holy spirit a living being?

[kjw47]

Is the holy spirit a living being with equality to the Father and son? Lets look at bible facts.

1) The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) the son has a name Jesus-Holy spirit-0
2) The Father seen on a throne, the son seen on a throne-Holy spirit-0
3)The Father shares certain things with the son-Holy spirit-0
4)Many very important passages in NT where only the Father and son are spoken of-holy spirit-2
The most important one being John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus. Holy spirit-0

No is the answer i see. How about you?

The new Catholic encyclopedia 1967 Vol XIII Page 575-- The majority of NT texts reveal Gods spirit as something not someone.

[MissKate13]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #71]

Good! You believe God is living, and you believe God is Spirit. Me too!

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2). Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead?

Its his active force. His power.

You did not answer my question.

Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead? Yes? No?

Are you talking about God or the holy spirit?

The Spirit of God from Gen. 1:2, and numerous other passages -

Is the Spirit of God dead? Yes? No?

Gen 1:2 is the holy spirit--It is Gods active force not a living being.

If you the Spirit of God is not living then there is only one alternative. You believe the Holy Spirit is dead. .

Is the spirit of kjw47 dead?

[MissKate13]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #71]

Good! You believe God is living, and you believe God is Spirit. Me too!

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2). Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead?

Its his active force. His power.

You did not answer my question.

Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead? Yes? No?

Are you talking about God or the holy spirit?

The Spirit of God from Gen. 1:2, and numerous other passages -

Is the Spirit of God dead? Yes? No?

Gen 1:2 is the holy spirit--It is Gods active force not a living being.

If you the Spirit of God is not living then there is only one alternative. You believe the Holy Spirit is dead.

If the Holy Spirit is dead, how is it “it” has emotions, a mind and a will?

The Scriptures teach that each of us has a spirit (1Jn 4:2) You say the Spirit of God is dead. Is the spirit of kjw47 also dead?

[onewithhim]

Is the holy spirit a living being with equality to the Father and son? Lets look at bible facts.

1) The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) the son has a name Jesus-Holy spirit-0
2) The Father seen on a throne, the son seen on a throne-Holy spirit-0
3)The Father shares certain things with the son-Holy spirit-0
4)Many very important passages in NT where only the Father and son are spoken of-holy spirit-2
The most important one being John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus. Holy spirit-0

No is the answer i see. How about you?

The new Catholic encyclopedia 1967 Vol XIII Page 575-- The majority of NT texts reveal Gods spirit as something not someone.

True, the HS has no name, therefore it could not be part of a co-equal Trinity. It has been made into a Person by some men's imaginations. There is no Biblical reason to believe that the HS is a Person. It is a "thing," like the power in an electric light bulb that lights up the bulb.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #71]

Good! You believe God is living, and you believe God is Spirit. Me too!

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2). Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead?

Its his active force. His power.

You did not answer my question.

Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead? Yes? No?

Are you talking about God or the holy spirit?

The Spirit of God from Gen. 1:2, and numerous other passages -

Is the Spirit of God dead? Yes? No?

Gen 1:2 is the holy spirit--It is Gods active force not a living being.

If you the Spirit of God is not living then there is only one alternative. You believe the Holy Spirit is dead.

If the Holy Spirit is dead, how is it “it” has emotions, a mind and a will?

The Scriptures teach that each of us has a spirit (1Jn 4:2) You say the Spirit of God is dead. Is the spirit of kjw47 also dead?

The HS is as living as the electricity in an electric wire. It is not "dead." Electricity lights up the world. Jehovah's POWER keeps everything alive and functioning. His HS is similar to the electricity comparison. He uses his Spirit to accomplish whatever he wants to do, and you can bet He is cognizant all around the world of what is going on, because of His HS that can be everywhere at once. Can a Person be everywhere at once? No, and neither can a Person be "poured out" like the HS at Pentecost.

IJohn 4:2 doesn't say anything about people having spirits.

The spirit we have is God's powerful FORCE which keeps everything alive. We don't have a spirit that departs our body at death. It's just God's power "returning" to its Source, so to speak, after the death of the individual.

[kjw47]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #71]

Good! You believe God is living, and you believe God is Spirit. Me too!

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2). Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead?

Its his active force. His power.

You did not answer my question.

Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead? Yes? No?

Are you talking about God or the holy spirit?

The Spirit of God from Gen. 1:2, and numerous other passages -

Is the Spirit of God dead? Yes? No?

Gen 1:2 is the holy spirit--It is Gods active force not a living being.

If you the Spirit of God is not living then there is only one alternative. You believe the Holy Spirit is dead. .

Is the spirit of kjw47 dead?

Mortals do not have a ghost being( spirit)like that within themselves. A force from God cannot be dead, it was never a living thing.

[MissKate13]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #71]

Good! You believe God is living, and you believe God is Spirit. Me too!

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2). Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead?

Its his active force. His power.

You did not answer my question.

Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead? Yes? No?

Are you talking about God or the holy spirit?

The Spirit of God from Gen. 1:2, and numerous other passages -

Is the Spirit of God dead? Yes? No?

Gen 1:2 is the holy spirit--It is Gods active force not a living being.

If you the Spirit of God is not living then there is only one alternative. You believe the Holy Spirit is dead.

If the Holy Spirit is dead, how is it “it” has emotions, a mind and a will?

The Scriptures teach that each of us has a spirit (1Jn 4:2) You say the Spirit of God is dead. Is the spirit of kjw47 also dead?

The HS is as living as the electricity in an electric wire. It is not "dead." Electricity lights up the world. Jehovah's POWER keeps everything alive and functioning. His HS is similar to the electricity comparison. He uses his Spirit to accomplish whatever he wants to do, and you can bet He is cognizant all around the world of what is going on, because of His HS that can be everywhere at once. Can a Person be everywhere at once? No, and neither can a Person be "poured out" like the HS at Pentecost.

IJohn 4:2 doesn't say anything about people having spirits.

The spirit we have is God's powerful FORCE which keeps everything alive. We don't have a spirit that departs our body at death. It's just God's power "returning" to its Source, so to speak, after the death of the individual.

[MissKate13]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #71]

Good! You believe God is living, and you believe God is Spirit. Me too!

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2). Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead?

Its his active force. His power.

You did not answer my question.

Do you believe the Spirit of God is dead? Yes? No?

Are you talking about God or the holy spirit?

The Spirit of God from Gen. 1:2, and numerous other passages -

Is the Spirit of God dead? Yes? No?

Gen 1:2 is the holy spirit--It is Gods active force not a living being.

If you the Spirit of God is not living then there is only one alternative. You believe the Holy Spirit is dead.

If the Holy Spirit is dead, how is it “it” has emotions, a mind and a will?

The Scriptures teach that each of us has a spirit (1Jn 4:2) You say the Spirit of God is dead. Is the spirit of kjw47 also dead?

The HS is as living as the electricity in an electric wire. It is not "dead." Electricity lights up the world. Jehovah's POWER keeps everything alive and functioning. His HS is similar to the electricity comparison. He uses his Spirit to accomplish whatever he wants to do, and you can bet He is cognizant all around the world of what is going on, because of His HS that can be everywhere at once. Can a Person be everywhere at once? No, and neither can a Person be "poured out" like the HS at Pentecost.

IJohn 4:2 doesn't say anything about people having spirits.

The spirit we have is God's powerful FORCE which keeps everything alive. We don't have a spirit that departs our body at death. It's just God's power "returning" to its Source, so to speak, after the death of the individual.

I’m happy to know you believe the Holy Spirit is not dead!

Neither the Holy Spirit nor our spirit is ever referred to as “force.”

In my humble opinion, a force does not have emotions, a mind or a will. The Holy Spirit has emotions, a mind and a will.

1 John 4:2
“By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,”

Who is the “spirit” in the second sentence that confesses that Jesus has come in the flesh?

The following verses all seem to indicate that we have a spirit.

1 Corinthians 2:11 “ For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.

James 2:26
For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

1 Thessalonians 5:23
Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Your thoughts?

[MissKate13]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #95]

“Force” is a term JW’s invented to describe the Holy Spirit. It is not Biblical. Nowhere does Scripture describe the Holy Spirit as force.

The opposite of living is dead. You claim the Holy Spirit is not living. Therefore, the Holy Spirit must be dead. There are no other alternatives. Either something is living or it’s dead.

Now you’re saying man does not have a spirit. The Scriptures say different.

1 Corinthians 2:11 “ For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.

James 2:26
For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

1 Thessalonians 5:23
Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[kjw47]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #95]

“Force” is a term JW’s invented to describe the Holy Spirit. It is not Biblical. Nowhere does Scripture describe the Holy Spirit as force.

The opposite of living is dead. You claim the Holy Spirit is not living. Therefore, the Holy Spirit must be dead. There are no other alternatives. Either something is living or it’s dead.

Now you’re saying man does not have a spirit. The Scriptures say different.

1 Corinthians 2:11 “ For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.

James 2:26
For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

1 Thessalonians 5:23
Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Yes a spirit as in the spirit of what makes that one them. Not a ghost like being within. Genesis is clear, its the breath of life that makes one alive. And one becomes a living soul, not has a living soul. Gen 2:7

[2timothy316]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #95]

“Force” is a term JW’s invented to describe the Holy Spirit. It is not Biblical. Nowhere does Scripture describe the Holy Spirit as force.

The opposite of living is dead. You claim the Holy Spirit is not living. Therefore, the Holy Spirit must be dead. There are no other alternatives. Either something is living or it’s dead.

Now you’re saying man does not have a spirit. The Scriptures say different.

1 Corinthians 2:11 “ For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.

James 2:26
For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

1 Thessalonians 5:23
Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Yes a spirit as in the spirit of what makes that one them. Not a ghost like being within. Genesis is clear, its the breath of life that makes one alive. And one becomes a living soul, not has a living soul. Gen 2:7

Yes. Correct. It is only when a body and spirit are together is there a living person. When they are separated, the person is dead or not living.