There are many verses in the Bible about God's predestination. https://www.openbible.info/topics/predestination Why would a good God predestine anyone to do evil? Surely, a good God would predestine all to do good? Does the existence of evil prove that God is evil? Surely, a good God would have made all living things to be autotrophs instead of making some autotrophs, some herbivores, some carnivores, some omnivores, and some parasites? Here are some examples of evil events which caused or are causing suffering, deaths, and injustices:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_n ... death_toll
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_g ... death_toll
https://thevegancalculator.com/animal-slaughter
Is God evil?
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Re: Is God evil?
Post #191JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:29 pmNever fails to amuse me when a theist carries on about reality.
God draws close to those that draw close to him.
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Post #192That's a nice sermon, but it does nothing to absolve you and your accusation.kjw47 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:34 pmJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:28 pmImplies those who reject your unfounded claims have less than honorable intent.
As it exposes you to em thinking it's you that suffers the condition.
The majority of mortals have a form of love. Those in Noahs day did as well. It was unacceptable to Gods view. Even Hitler loved his family and friends. The new covenant Jesus brought says that same love must be given to ones enemies as well. Not such an easy accomplishment since pride gets in the way of most who have premeditated return evil for evil in their hearts.
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Post #193The liar lies and the preacher preaches.
You do nothing to support your claims but offer more claims.
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Re: Is God evil?
Post #194[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #188]
Because we don't have jobs or families or maintain our lives, our homes, our bank accounts, our children, our communities the same way atheists do other than we believe in deity? Now he's not really discussing reality?Never fails to amuse me when a theist carries on about reality.
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Post #195Gods will only ever been shown to be the product of human imagination.PolytheistWitch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:52 pm [Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #188]
Because we don't have jobs or families or maintain our lives, our homes, our bank accounts, our children, our communities the same way atheists do other than we believe in deity? Now he's not really discussing reality?Never fails to amuse me when a theist carries on about reality.
Try to show otherwise.
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Re: Is God evil?
Post #196[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #195
Don't have to. Nothing to do with what you are saying. Theists live in reality just like atheists.
Not liking a belief we have isn't our fault.
Don't have to. Nothing to do with what you are saying. Theists live in reality just like atheists.
Not liking a belief we have isn't our fault.
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Post #197I don't so much fault such beliefs, as I fault folks trying to impose em on everybody else.PolytheistWitch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:17 pm [Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #195
Don't have to. Nothing to do with what you are saying. Theists live in reality just like atheists.
Not liking a belief we have isn't our fault.
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Post #198[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #197]
So the ones that don't witness are fine and based in reality? If you want people to take you seriously try being honest with your responses.I don't so much fault such beliefs, as I fault folks trying to impose em on everybody else.
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Re: Is God evil?
Post #199Go ahead, show us all a god exists then.PolytheistWitch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:25 pm [Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #197]
So the ones that don't witness are fine and based in reality?I don't so much fault such beliefs, as I fault folks trying to impose em on everybody else.
There ya go theist - accuse all of dishonesty when things don't go your way.If you want people to take you seriously try being honest with your responses.
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Re: Is God evil?
Post #200Not being able to demonstrate the truth of your beliefs is your fault.PolytheistWitch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:17 pm [Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #195
Don't have to. Nothing to do with what you are saying. Theists live in reality just like atheists.
Not liking a belief we have isn't our fault.
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Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.