Did Christianity lose its way?

[oldbadger]

The Abrahamic God explained how success could be won by keeping exactly to his laws, his way.
But as the Israelites fell away from these so the prophets came to restore order.
In Isaiah's time the land was corrupted and lawless and he called a restoration of law and order.
When the Baptist came his appearance was answering Isaiah's call.
When Jesus appeared he called for a return of the law but without the need for all those priesthood backhanders within the system of sacrifices.

So where did Christianity get all it's amazing ideas from......... ?

Here are just a small selection of verses from the bible to show a continuous message......... the laws............which Christianity then mangled, in my opinion.

GENESIS {18:19} For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.

EXODUS{18:19} Hearken now unto my voice, I will give thee counsel, and God shall be with thee: Be thou for the people to God-ward, that thou mayest bring the causes unto God: {18:20} And thou shalt teach them ordinances and laws, and shalt shew them the way wherein they must walk, and the work that they must do.

LEVITCUS {20:22} Ye shall therefore keep all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: that the land, whither I bring you to dwell therein, spue you not out. {20:23} And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them. {20:24} But I have said unto you, Ye shall inherit their land, and I will give it unto you to possess it, a land that floweth with milk and honey: I [am] the LORD your God, which have separated you from [other] people.

DEUTERONOMY {5:33} Ye shall walk in all the ways which the LORD your God hath commanded you, that ye may live, and [that it may be] well with you, and [that] ye may prolong [your] days in the land which ye shall possess. {6:1} Now these [are] the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments,

SAMUEL {22:22} For I have kept the ways of the LORD, and have not wickedly departed from my God. {22:23} For all his judgments [were] before me: and [as for] his statutes,

PSALMS {18:21} For I have kept the ways of the LORD, and have not wickedly departed from my God. {18:22} For all his judgments [were] before me, and I did not put away his statutes from me.

ISAIAH {40:3} The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. {40:4} Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

Matthew {3:3} For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

Mark {1:3} The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. {1:4} John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

Luke {3:4} As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

Matthew {11:12} And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. {11:13} For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. {11:14} And if ye will receive [it,] this is Elias, which was for to come. {11:15} He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Matthew {5:17} Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. {5:18} For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. {5:19} Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever
shall do and teach [them,] the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew {21:32} For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen [it,] repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

Matthew {7:12} Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

[Thomas123]

oldbadger: 'The Abrahamic God explained how success could be won by keeping exactly to his laws, his way.

Thomas123
Where did the Abrahamic God of Genesis 1 come from?

[PolytheistWitch]

Christianity is a misnomer. The Bible teaches the rules set by Paul. The Trinity and Hell concepts are based in Roman polytheism. There is certainly no ties to the Old Testament other than the main characters were once practicing Jews. And we haven't even touched Catholicism.

[Thomas123]

PolytheistWitch
Christianity is a misnomer.
Not by the definition

The Bible teaches the rules set by Paul.
Not exclusively to a degree that's relevant.

The Trinity and Hell concepts are based in Roman polytheism.
No they are not.

There is certainly no ties to the Old Testament other than the main characters were once practicing Jews.
Yes there are.

And we haven't even touched Catholicism.
Can't wait!

[JehovahsWitness]

So where did Christianity get all it's amazing ideas from......... ?

You havent said which specific "amazing ideas" you are refering to, but I would say Christianity get all it's amazing ideas from one Jesus of Nazareth.





JW

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[JehovahsWitness]

When Jesus appeared he called for a return of the law but without the need for all those priesthood backhanders within the system of sacrifices.

I dont know what you mean by "backhanders" but the Jewish temple based system was based on an Aaronic priesthood offering animal sacrifices and any call for the abolishion of the priesthood would have been a call for a violation of the Mosaic law and opened Jesus up justifiably accusations of APOSTACY.

Jesus did no such thing,



JW

[Clownboat]

When Jesus appeared he called for a return of the law but without the need for all those priesthood backhanders within the system of sacrifices.

I dont know what you mean by "backhanders" but the Jewish temple based system was based on an Aaronic priesthood offering animal sacrifices and any call for the abolishion of the priesthood would have been a call for a violation of the Mosaic law and opened Jesus up justifiably accusations of APOSTACY.

Jesus did no such thing,



JW

Why do you think there was such desire for blood from the gods of old?
Were the Inca and Aztec (to name a couple) on to something, or just the Hebrews and Christians?

The gods needing to be worshipped and needing/desiring blood seems ungodly to me anyway. What's your take on this need/desire for blood from the gods?

[Miles]

Did Christianity lose its way?

Well, if nothing else it certainly seems to have lost its grip, and I must say, this is a remarkable plummet it's experiencing. Personally, I think Christianity's heyday is over, and will forever more be an "also-ran" religion, fighting for the pocketbooks of the "Nones," right alongside the Jews and the up and coming Muslims.



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With the Religiously Unaffiliated (the Nones) rising by a remarkable 52% in just seven years.

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[oldbadger]

oldbadger: 'The Abrahamic God explained how success could be won by keeping exactly to his laws, his way.

Thomas123
Where did the Abrahamic God of Genesis 1 come from?

No idea. But I'll tell you a secret. I think that men figured out and wrote those laws which worked brilliantly until they started to get ignored, and then things fell apart, hence the calls for their return, all the way to Jesus. And then the authors of G-John and Paul and others figured out something entirely different. And Christianity lost its way.

[oldbadger]

Christianity is a misnomer. The Bible teaches the rules set by Paul. The Trinity and Hell concepts are based in Roman polytheism. There is certainly no ties to the Old Testament other than the main characters were once practicing Jews. And we haven't even touched Catholicism.

Fair enough. And the old laws all got swept away........ and the messages of the prophets and Jesus were lost.
And certainly it was the Jews who practicised these laws, they were nothing to do with the gentiles although there would have been places where they touched.

Can anybody tell me what verses were kept within those little containers on Jewish door frames? I think that they were probably laws.