The point is if myrrh and aloe is standard practice for Jewish burials and it can produce a stain, then we should see body image stains for many other Jewish burials as well.
The author of John does say that Nicodemus procured a substantial amount of the spices [about 100 lbs.]
True, but it does not state how much of it was used, how much was applied, or how much remained on the body. One thing we do know is the process of anointing was not completed when Jesus was buried. The women came on the third day to complete the anointing.
Athetotheist wrote:The middle of the cloth, over his head, would have fallen over the sides of his face. So those parts should bear images of the sides of his head.
As I mentioned earlier, this is explained by the angle and distance of the cloth relative to the body. So parts of the body, like the ears, are missing on the TS.
I'm saying that there should be images of the sides of the head.
There should be according to how Nickell made it. But, because of how the image was formed on the shroud, certain parts of the body would not have been imaged. I'll get into more details on this later when I propose the theory of how the image formed.
Then why does the author of John mention it being folded off to the side, as if that were something extraordinary?
Here is the passage:
[Jhn 20:4-8 KJV] 4 So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre. 5 And he stooping down, [and looking in], saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in. 6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, 7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. 8 Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.
There could be several possible explanations why the beloved disciple made note of that, but I'm not sure it really matters why he wrote it. But for sure, it indicates it was at a separate location apart from the shroud when they had entered into the tomb.
If Nickell did not even try to use blood, then it cannot be claimed he demonstrated how the shroud was created. In order to give a viable explanation of how the shroud was formed, all features of the shroud needs to be replicated, including the blood.
The blood pattern results found by Borrini and Garlaschelli are still evidence against the image being authentic.
I'll be going into the blood after the C-14, so we can discuss Borrini and Garlaschelli later.
But for now, we can rule out the experiment carried out by Nickell was able to fully replicate the TS.
Did you notice that Jesus is on that list?
... and I'm producing the artifact evidence now with the TS.
But suppose that after all that the image did turn out to be miraculous. Would that be enough to prove Jesus's claim to be the Jewish Messiah in a biblical context?
Good question. That will be my ultimate goal.
Since this is a thread about inerrancy and the Bible's authenticity, the whole TS issue should be taken in the context of that discussion. Even you concede that the Christian Bible is not inerrant, but what is excusing its errancy other than an attempt to make its claims unfalsifiable?
Actually, the resurrection is falsifiable. And I'm even upping the ante by saying if the TS is falsified, then the resurrection is falsified.
