20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament

[Compassionist]

Please see Do you agree? Do you disagree? If you disagree, what is the basis for your disagreement?

[TRANSPONDER]

Few know the true God-YHWH(Jehovah) --most are mislead into worshipping false gods.

How do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They let this heart-Jeremiah 17:9 get the best of them then. And they falsely reasoned. Your post doesn't make sense. How could God draw them close if he wasn't there?

Because it's self -delusion. Just as Christian would say of someone who is drawn to Krishna or Allah. We atheists just say it about one more rejected god -claim.

Few know the true God-YHWH(Jehovah) --most are mislead into worshipping false gods.

How do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They let this heart-Jeremiah 17:9 get the best of them then. And they falsely reasoned. Your post doesn't make sense. How could God draw them close if he wasn't there?

I used to be a devout Christian. I was delusional and believed that God was with me. There are lots of Christians who believe they are saved because of John 3:16 which says "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." The problem is that it is a lie. Christians perish just as much as non-Christians do even though the verse claims that they shall not perish. Christianity is a reward-after-death scam. Just like Islam and all the other religions that claim eternal life after death. If they were true, it would be eternal life without having to die at all.

The trinity religions do not have God. God was never a trinity and their scholars know its fact yet say nothing.
The only ones who may never die are those who live through the tribulation and Armageddon. The first death isn't permanent for most. A resurrection into Gods kingdom is promised. And since the wages of sin is death, all past sins have been paid for, thus the resurrected get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will under ideal circumstances( no satan influence) in Gods kingdom on earth--then satan gets loosed for a little while to test the resurrected's faith, Rev 20: 8-9 shows many will follow him still and get destroyed forever. The ones who remain faithful get their names written in Gods book of life-everlasting life. All signs show Gods kingdom approaching rapidly. You can choose to live forever by serving the true God now=YHWH(Jehovah)

You misunderstand and misinterpret what 'trinity religion' is. It is One god, doing three things. Once you preach your false reasoning you pin a bunch of faithclaims onto it...the dorstoop speil I mentioned in another post just now. and finishing it up with the 'sign up or Die' ultimatum. It's always a good laugh.

Few know the true God-YHWH(Jehovah) --most are mislead into worshipping false gods.

How do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They let this heart-Jeremiah 17:9 get the best of them then. And they falsely reasoned. Your post doesn't make sense. How could God draw them close if he wasn't there?

<groan> According to you he IS there.
So, once again, how do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They reasoned falsely, they let satan win. A hand picked apostle did just that=Judas. Imagine all the miracles he saw Jesus do, yet still fell to satan.

There's another false ploy. Use the thing being questioned as evidence for the thing being questioned - a dubious and propagandist story which we doubters do not have to credit used as evidence that those who saw the story was false are doing what the person in the story did wrong. Don't you see that this is not evidence that those who saw the Belief was wrong were deluded by the satan you haven't proved was real anyway?

It's absolutely the faithbased apologetics that skew all the faithbased apologetics.

[TRANSPONDER]

They reasoned falsely, they let satan win. A hand picked apostle did just that=Judas. Imagine all the miracles he saw Jesus do, yet still fell to satan.

Yes, Paul said even some of the anointed rejected Christ, being called doesn't mean you have to stay loyal.

Just out of interest, where does Paul say that?

In any case I suspect you Interpret that a bit and what we have is Paul fuming that Jesus' actual followers disagree with Paul's perversion of their Messianic Judaism, which even Luke (in his biographical novel - Acts) understood was still orthodox Jewish with a respect for the Law that Paul wanted to be rid of.

[Purple Knight]

If only you exist then arguably there's no point of morality existing since you can't hurt anybody else.

If solipsism was true, I could still harm myself. Self-harm could be classified to be immoral.

But if you want to do that, who's to say you can't? Who's to even define harm? If you're completely alone and you decide to cut off your arm, then find you're crying later for want of an arm, then you figure out you ought not cut off your other arm for your own good and I just don't see where morality applies.

You can classify self-harm as immoral, I just don't see the point, since we already have a framework for not wanting to cut off your arm and not doing it even if it happens to strike your fancy, and we don't have to hamper you with a moral directive that will have to be dealt with in the even that it becomes a possible benefit to cut off your arm.

[kjw47]

The trinity religions do not have God. God was never a trinity and their scholars know its fact yet say nothing.
The only ones who may never die are those who live through the tribulation and Armageddon. The first death isn't permanent for most. A resurrection into Gods kingdom is promised. And since the wages of sin is death, all past sins have been paid for, thus the resurrected get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will under ideal circumstances( no satan influence) in Gods kingdom on earth--then satan gets loosed for a little while to test the resurrected's faith, Rev 20: 8-9 shows many will follow him still and get destroyed forever. The ones who remain faithful get their names written in Gods book of life-everlasting life. All signs show Gods kingdom approaching rapidly. You can choose to live forever by serving the true God now=YHWH(Jehovah)

So God looses him a demon to test fallen man's faith in him, and being all fallen and all, some of em come up short, so God gets all mad and all, and tries to destroy such folks forever.

I can't tell if that's a god, or Trump.

A very loving provision by God to give them a second chance, being returned to perfection. they wont be fallen when satan gets loosed. Its their fault by misuse of their free will. The same misuse by Adam and Eve.

[kjw47]

Few know the true God-YHWH(Jehovah) --most are mislead into worshipping false gods.

How do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They let this heart-Jeremiah 17:9 get the best of them then. And they falsely reasoned. Your post doesn't make sense. How could God draw them close if he wasn't there?

Because it's self -delusion. Just as Christian would say of someone who is drawn to Krishna or Allah. We atheists just say it about one more rejected god -claim.

Few know the true God-YHWH(Jehovah) --most are mislead into worshipping false gods.

How do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They let this heart-Jeremiah 17:9 get the best of them then. And they falsely reasoned. Your post doesn't make sense. How could God draw them close if he wasn't there?

I used to be a devout Christian. I was delusional and believed that God was with me. There are lots of Christians who believe they are saved because of John 3:16 which says "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." The problem is that it is a lie. Christians perish just as much as non-Christians do even though the verse claims that they shall not perish. Christianity is a reward-after-death scam. Just like Islam and all the other religions that claim eternal life after death. If they were true, it would be eternal life without having to die at all.

The trinity religions do not have God. God was never a trinity and their scholars know its fact yet say nothing.
The only ones who may never die are those who live through the tribulation and Armageddon. The first death isn't permanent for most. A resurrection into Gods kingdom is promised. And since the wages of sin is death, all past sins have been paid for, thus the resurrected get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will under ideal circumstances( no satan influence) in Gods kingdom on earth--then satan gets loosed for a little while to test the resurrected's faith, Rev 20: 8-9 shows many will follow him still and get destroyed forever. The ones who remain faithful get their names written in Gods book of life-everlasting life. All signs show Gods kingdom approaching rapidly. You can choose to live forever by serving the true God now=YHWH(Jehovah)

You misunderstand and misinterpret what 'trinity religion' is. It is One god, doing three things. Once you preach your false reasoning you pin a bunch of faithclaims onto it...the dorstoop speil I mentioned in another post just now. and finishing it up with the 'sign up or Die' ultimatum. It's always a good laugh.

Few know the true God-YHWH(Jehovah) --most are mislead into worshipping false gods.

How do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They let this heart-Jeremiah 17:9 get the best of them then. And they falsely reasoned. Your post doesn't make sense. How could God draw them close if he wasn't there?

<groan> According to you he IS there.
So, once again, how do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They reasoned falsely, they let satan win. A hand picked apostle did just that=Judas. Imagine all the miracles he saw Jesus do, yet still fell to satan.

There's another false ploy. Use the thing being questioned as evidence for the thing being questioned - a dubious and propagandist story which we doubters do not have to credit used as evidence that those who saw the story was false are doing what the person in the story did wrong. Don't you see that this is not evidence that those who saw the Belief was wrong were deluded by the satan you haven't proved was real anyway?

It's absolutely the faithbased apologetics that skew all the faithbased apologetics.

So then you let satan beat you and are proud of it right?

[brunumb]

So then you let satan beat you and are proud of it right?

So then you let reason and logic beat you and are proud to declare it, right?

[kjw47]

So then you let satan beat you and are proud of it right?

So then you let reason and logic beat you and are proud to declare it, right?

I know 100% God is there. He is YHWH(Jehovah)

[JoeyKnothead]

The trinity religions do not have God. God was never a trinity and their scholars know its fact yet say nothing.
The only ones who may never die are those who live through the tribulation and Armageddon. The first death isn't permanent for most. A resurrection into Gods kingdom is promised. And since the wages of sin is death, all past sins have been paid for, thus the resurrected get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will under ideal circumstances( no satan influence) in Gods kingdom on earth--then satan gets loosed for a little while to test the resurrected's faith, Rev 20: 8-9 shows many will follow him still and get destroyed forever. The ones who remain faithful get their names written in Gods book of life-everlasting life. All signs show Gods kingdom approaching rapidly. You can choose to live forever by serving the true God now=YHWH(Jehovah)

So God looses him a demon to test fallen man's faith in him, and being all fallen and all, some of em come up short, so God gets all mad and all, and tries to destroy such folks forever.

I can't tell if that's a god, or Trump.

A very loving provision by God to give them a second chance, being returned to perfection. they wont be fallen when satan gets loosed. Its their fault by misuse of their free will. The same misuse by Adam and Eve.

Forgiveness is too hard for an omnipotent, omniscient entity.

Religion lol

[TRANSPONDER]

Few know the true God-YHWH(Jehovah) --most are mislead into worshipping false gods.

How do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They let this heart-Jeremiah 17:9 get the best of them then. And they falsely reasoned. Your post doesn't make sense. How could God draw them close if he wasn't there?

Because it's self -delusion. Just as Christian would say of someone who is drawn to Krishna or Allah. We atheists just say it about one more rejected god -claim.

Few know the true God-YHWH(Jehovah) --most are mislead into worshipping false gods.

How do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They let this heart-Jeremiah 17:9 get the best of them then. And they falsely reasoned. Your post doesn't make sense. How could God draw them close if he wasn't there?

I used to be a devout Christian. I was delusional and believed that God was with me. There are lots of Christians who believe they are saved because of John 3:16 which says "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." The problem is that it is a lie. Christians perish just as much as non-Christians do even though the verse claims that they shall not perish. Christianity is a reward-after-death scam. Just like Islam and all the other religions that claim eternal life after death. If they were true, it would be eternal life without having to die at all.

The trinity religions do not have God. God was never a trinity and their scholars know its fact yet say nothing.
The only ones who may never die are those who live through the tribulation and Armageddon. The first death isn't permanent for most. A resurrection into Gods kingdom is promised. And since the wages of sin is death, all past sins have been paid for, thus the resurrected get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will under ideal circumstances( no satan influence) in Gods kingdom on earth--then satan gets loosed for a little while to test the resurrected's faith, Rev 20: 8-9 shows many will follow him still and get destroyed forever. The ones who remain faithful get their names written in Gods book of life-everlasting life. All signs show Gods kingdom approaching rapidly. You can choose to live forever by serving the true God now=YHWH(Jehovah)

You misunderstand and misinterpret what 'trinity religion' is. It is One god, doing three things. Once you preach your false reasoning you pin a bunch of faithclaims onto it...the dorstoop speil I mentioned in another post just now. and finishing it up with the 'sign up or Die' ultimatum. It's always a good laugh.

Few know the true God-YHWH(Jehovah) --most are mislead into worshipping false gods.

How do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They let this heart-Jeremiah 17:9 get the best of them then. And they falsely reasoned. Your post doesn't make sense. How could God draw them close if he wasn't there?

<groan> According to you he IS there.
So, once again, how do you account for those who drew close to God-YHWH(Jehovah) , who therefore drew them close to him, but they ultimately realised he wasn't real?

They reasoned falsely, they let satan win. A hand picked apostle did just that=Judas. Imagine all the miracles he saw Jesus do, yet still fell to satan.

There's another false ploy. Use the thing being questioned as evidence for the thing being questioned - a dubious and propagandist story which we doubters do not have to credit used as evidence that those who saw the story was false are doing what the person in the story did wrong. Don't you see that this is not evidence that those who saw the Belief was wrong were deluded by the satan you haven't proved was real anyway?

It's absolutely the faithbased apologetics that skew all the faithbased apologetics.

So then you let satan beat you and are proud of it right?

I see no reason to believe in Satan, and when I read the account he looks more like a messenger - boy, enforcer and gofer for God, not an opponent. it would explain why he is let loose and God does nothing about it.

No, i do not believe in Satan, even before we get into whether various religions and churches would make more sense as the tools of Satan to ruin men and wreck society.

No, I prefer evidence, logic, reason and humanism, and I'm not ashamed of that. After all even the religious apologists claim to use evidence, reason and logic, even if they actually use science - denial, faithclaims, inhumanity (1) and sophistry.

but you go right on, mud - slinging, bitter accusations and general displays of very good reasons for people to have nothing to do with Christianity unless it is very easy -going

.(1) you think not? Hellthreat, original sin, subjugation of women and excusing genocide and slavery just for starters. That's without getting in religious history and recent activities.

[kjw47]

The trinity religions do not have God. God was never a trinity and their scholars know its fact yet say nothing.
The only ones who may never die are those who live through the tribulation and Armageddon. The first death isn't permanent for most. A resurrection into Gods kingdom is promised. And since the wages of sin is death, all past sins have been paid for, thus the resurrected get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will under ideal circumstances( no satan influence) in Gods kingdom on earth--then satan gets loosed for a little while to test the resurrected's faith, Rev 20: 8-9 shows many will follow him still and get destroyed forever. The ones who remain faithful get their names written in Gods book of life-everlasting life. All signs show Gods kingdom approaching rapidly. You can choose to live forever by serving the true God now=YHWH(Jehovah)

So God looses him a demon to test fallen man's faith in him, and being all fallen and all, some of em come up short, so God gets all mad and all, and tries to destroy such folks forever.

I can't tell if that's a god, or Trump.

A very loving provision by God to give them a second chance, being returned to perfection. they wont be fallen when satan gets loosed. Its their fault by misuse of their free will. The same misuse by Adam and Eve.

Forgiveness is too hard for an omnipotent, omniscient entity.

Religion lol

Forgiveness has nothing to do with it. They paid in full the wages of sin= death. They do not owe those wages once resurrected. Its their own bad choice to follow satan again and throw away everlasting life.