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20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:14 pm
kjw47 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:01 pm Those who live to the tribulation and Armageddon. My teachers say those who die then by Gods hand wont get resurrected. It is coming. We are near the end of these last days.
We've been last daysing it for two thousand years now, don't rob the kid's college fund just yet.

The 7 headed beast with 10 horns and 2 horned beast of Rev 13 had to be in place-The world has watched this for many years now here in these last days.

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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament

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kjw47 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:12 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:14 pm
kjw47 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:01 pm Those who live to the tribulation and Armageddon. My teachers say those who die then by Gods hand wont get resurrected. It is coming. We are near the end of these last days.
We've been last daysing it for two thousand years now, don't rob the kid's college fund just yet.

The 7 headed beast with 10 horns and 2 horned beast of Rev 13 had to be in place-The world has watched this for many years now here in these last days.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament

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kjw47 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:59 pm
brunumb wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:51 pm
kjw47 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:24 pm So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.
Yeah, really loving of him to set Satan loose to wreck people's lives once again. This God is the epitome of evil.

Yes very loving to give them a second chance with no satan influences to distract them They must be tested to prove their faithfulness. God is making 100% sure this system never occurs again. He is always right.
That is too funny. God has failed so many times you'd think he wasn't really all that smart. He made wonderful angels, and then hordes of them rebelled. He made Adam and Eve, plonked them in a perfect paradise and that experiment failed. He let people populate the earth and then had to drown all but a few righteous. They repopulated the earth and everything still went down the gurgler. He tried fixing things by cloning himself as Jesus and everything still went down hill. He has been thwarted or outsmarted at every turn and he is supposed to be the omnipotent one. Now he's going to rely on yet another test to find the faithful. Good luck with that one.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament

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kjw47 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:01 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:55 am
kjw47 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:24 pm
Miles wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:02 pm
kjw47 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:43 pm
Miles wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:05 pm
kjw47 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:26 pm
Sheol( Hebrew) = Hades( Greek) = Hell= the grave. There is no life in death.
You seem to be saying that

Sheol = the grave
Hades = the grave
Hell = the grave

And no one survives death in any form. Is this correct?

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It is correct. There would no sense of death if one went on. There is no life in death. Jesus likened it to sleep. One is not aware of ones surroundings in sleep.
Assuming your definition of death is the common one, a "permanent cessation of all vital functions including brain activity" how does Jesus fit into the picture, if at all?

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All sin is acquitted at death. One cannot be retried for them. So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.
These are merely faithclaims. Not to say preaching rather than discussion. Why should we credit any of this? You may say: 'your choice', but again, which choice? If we all get this afterlife, why do beliefs matter, and if a religious Faith matters, why Christianity rather than any of the others? You see - validating your religious claims is what matters, not explaining your dogma to us.

Those who live to the tribulation and Armageddon. My teachers say those who die then by Gods hand wont get resurrected. It is coming. We are near the end of these last days.
This is just shouting faithclaims at us. This is no discussion. You have nothing worthwhile to say.

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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament

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brunumb wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:54 pm
kjw47 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:59 pm
brunumb wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:51 pm
kjw47 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:24 pm So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.
Yeah, really loving of him to set Satan loose to wreck people's lives once again. This God is the epitome of evil.

Yes very loving to give them a second chance with no satan influences to distract them They must be tested to prove their faithfulness. God is making 100% sure this system never occurs again. He is always right.
That is too funny. God has failed so many times you'd think he wasn't really all that smart. He made wonderful angels, and then hordes of them rebelled. He made Adam and Eve, plonked them in a perfect paradise and that experiment failed. He let people populate the earth and then had to drown all but a few righteous. They repopulated the earth and everything still went down the gurgler. He tried fixing things by cloning himself as Jesus and everything still went down hill. He has been thwarted or outsmarted at every turn and he is supposed to be the omnipotent one. Now he's going to rely on yet another test to find the faithful. Good luck with that one.

Satan got jealous and wanted worship-the rest wanted sex with mortal females. God did not come to earth, only blind guides teach that. God doesn't interfere with free will, it wouldn't be free will otherwise, Its mortals who fail God that is to blame. Like the idiots running govts and corporations that have polluted everything and are selling us cancer for profit.

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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament

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TRANSPONDER wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:40 am
kjw47 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:01 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:55 am
kjw47 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:24 pm
Miles wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:02 pm
kjw47 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:43 pm
Miles wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:05 pm
kjw47 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:26 pm
Sheol( Hebrew) = Hades( Greek) = Hell= the grave. There is no life in death.
You seem to be saying that

Sheol = the grave
Hades = the grave
Hell = the grave

And no one survives death in any form. Is this correct?

.
It is correct. There would no sense of death if one went on. There is no life in death. Jesus likened it to sleep. One is not aware of ones surroundings in sleep.
Assuming your definition of death is the common one, a "permanent cessation of all vital functions including brain activity" how does Jesus fit into the picture, if at all?

.

All sin is acquitted at death. One cannot be retried for them. So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.
These are merely faithclaims. Not to say preaching rather than discussion. Why should we credit any of this? You may say: 'your choice', but again, which choice? If we all get this afterlife, why do beliefs matter, and if a religious Faith matters, why Christianity rather than any of the others? You see - validating your religious claims is what matters, not explaining your dogma to us.

Those who live to the tribulation and Armageddon. My teachers say those who die then by Gods hand wont get resurrected. It is coming. We are near the end of these last days.
This is just shouting faithclaims at us. This is no discussion. You have nothing worthwhile to say.

Faith facts.

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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament

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kjw47 wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:12 pm Satan got jealous and wanted worship-the rest wanted sex with mortal females. God did not come to earth, only blind guides teach that. God doesn't interfere with free will, it wouldn't be free will otherwise, Its mortals who fail God that is to blame. Like the idiots running govts and corporations that have polluted everything and are selling us cancer for profit.
Enough of this. For the last time, the world is not flat!
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kjw47 wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:01 pm
Those who live to the tribulation and Armageddon. My teachers say those who die then by Gods hand wont get resurrected. It is coming. We are near the end of these last days.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament

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in - 1Co 14:

The Bible here is speaking of both man and woman - husbands and wives – concerning the church order when someone else is speaking in tongues.

saying how that they are to keep silence and BOTH - have respect and save their talking for when they are at home. The order of women keeping totally silent in church was only concerning the church order when someone else is speaking in tongues. -

The Trinitarian Translators attempted to add ideas that are not in the manuscripts. Proof is available.

1Co 14:27  If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 
:28  But if there be no interpreter, KEEP SILENT in the church; and speak to YOUUSELVES, and to God. 
:29  Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 
:30  If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first Keep SILENT

THE COMMAND IS FOR EVERYONE TO KEEP SILENCE - woman who were in this particular setting - at this particular church - at this particular time and place would begin to talk and ask questions which was causing a disturbance .

THE COMMAND WAS EVERYONE in the church who were speaking about and asking about details of the prophecy - if women want to ask questions about the interpretation wait until after the service is over.

this passage is mistranslated the original message of the manuscript does not command women to not speak in the church - but regarding the interpretations of prophecy from speaking in tongues, EVERYONE is to keep silent about it durring service unless they have the interpretation

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