Knowing God means disbelieving the 'Trinity'.

[MadJW]

He says that Name will be his FOREVER!
Not 'Jesus', which by the way means "Salvation of Jehovah".

[Ross]

Hello MadJW,

I recall talking with you years ago on Bible-Discussion.com.

You reminisced with sadness how the Theocratic Ministry School had dwindled from a dynamic training program to a shadow of it's previous self.

How are you?

[theophile]

I'm not following why we must disbelieve in the trinity. Maybe we need to reimagine it instead.

My suggestion is that there is something deeply important about the concept, but the players typically identified in it are wrong. It's not so much the father, the son, and the holy spirit that are important, but the holy spirit, the mother and the son...

Per Genesis 1 these are the spirit of God, the deep (which takes the place of a primordial mother goddess type), and the light. Per the gospels these are the angel of God, Mary, and Christ...

I think this trinity ought to be believed in, or is at least helpful in understanding the theology at play, and what knowing God means.

[Tcg]

[Replying to theophile in post #3]

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[Miles]

He says that Name will be his FOREVER!
Not 'Jesus', which by the way means "Salvation of Jehovah".

Actually, the Hebrew name for god is יְהֹוָה . "Yehovah" or "Yᵊhōvâ" is simply an English transliteration.

And "Jesus" is the "personal name of the Christian Savior, late 12c.; it is the Greek form of Joshua, used variously in translations of the Bible. From Late Latin Iesus (properly pronounced as three syllables), from Greek Iesous, which is an attempt to render into Greek the Aramaic (Semitic) proper name Jeshua (Hebrew Yeshua, Yoshua) "Jah is salvation." This was a common Jewish personal name during the Hellenizing period; it is the later form of Hebrew Yehoshua (see Joshua)."
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[MadJW]

We speak English here...

[Miles]

We speak English here...

Right, but no matter what anyone speaks, "Jehovah" is not (Yehovah in Hebrew).

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[MadJW]

We speak English here...

Right, but no matter what anyone speaks, "Jehovah" is not (Yehovah in Hebrew).

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We don't speak Hebrew.

[Miles]

We speak English here...

Right, but no matter what anyone speaks, "Jehovah" is not (Yehovah in Hebrew).
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We don't speak Hebrew.

So what? The comment in the image you posted, "Jehovah (Yehovah in Hebrew)" is wrong, and could hardly be "my name FOREVER." If anything, god's name would have been יְהֹוָה .


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That's all I was pointing out.

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[tam]

Peace to you,

He says that Name will be his FOREVER!
Not 'Jesus', which by the way means "Salvation of Jehovah".

Knowing God means knowing His Son. Not because they are the same person, but because the Son is the Image and Truth and perfect reflection of His Father (John 14:6-7, 9; John 8:19; Matt 11:27; Colossians 1:15).

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”


There are plenty of people who believe the name of God is "Jehovah", but who still do not know God, whose name is JAH (Psalm 68:4).

But if a person knows Christ, whose name is Jaheshua (JAH saves), that person DOES know Father as well.


Peace again to you and to you all,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy