Q: Did Adam make the right choice in letting Eve take a bite?
Things Adam could/should he have done differently, might include.
Pick up a rock and dash in the head of Serpent before it could further entice Eve.
Runaway and find God/call pout to God in a loud voice and tell Him what was happening/make Him aware of it.
Remind Eve that while she could touch the fruit and examine it, she wasn't to eat it, and that the Serpent, while a know-all, didn't know everything.
Smack the fruit out of her hand, when she went to bite it.
Let Eve do as she pleased, and wash his hands of her.
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When Eve saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto Adam who was with her; and he did eat as well.(Author unknown)
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Did Adam make the right choice in letting Eve take a bite?
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Post #11You're right, I'm sorry if I came over as complaining, it was wrong of me to give that impression, I apologise. To answer your question as to why Adam made that choice I think it was because he loved his wife more than he loved God.
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Re: Did Adam make the right choice in letting Eve take a bite?
Post #12[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #11]
You know how much trouble one can get into by not basing our beliefs on facts.
Nothing in the Eden narrative suggests he loved Eve more than God.
There is a grand lesson in Eden and God wasted no time in telling us. It is this:
•Listen to Gods voice and obey him.
•If another voice other than God says differently don’t listen to it. Especially an unidentified voice.
• We are introduced to the adversary. Satan. Not by name but by his description
• the adversary will use mans greatest desire to get nan to disregard Gods commands. Promising eternal life to those who disobey God.
•Their eyes were opened by the adversary. They learned what sin was when the adversary entered Eden.
•we know the adversary has been with us since the beginning
• We learn that one can’t cover their sins in the hope that God won’t punish us.
•We learn that if one tries covering their sins they accuse themself of being guilty,
WHEN GOD CAUGHT UP WITH ADAM AND AND EVE THEY TOLD GID THEY WERE HIDING BECAUSE THEY WERE NAKED. God replied: WHO TOLD YOU THAT YIU WERE NAKED? They told themselves that. As soon as they sinned they knew they did wrong. Their sin manifested itself physically and they covered themselves fig leaves.
By hiding themself it proved to God thst they intentionally disobeyed. They knew what he commanded but disobeyed anyway. Jesus is the fatal fig leaf for those that hide behind him? God will ask why you need Jesus? You are admitting to know you’ve done wrong. So stop doing wrong.
Interestingly enough when Jesus opened the eyes of the blind man a comment was made that Jesus must be from God. They said SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME has anyone opened the eyes if one born blind? They were specific… they said the beginning of time. That would be in Eden. Jesus makes a comment “Had I not come and spoken to them they had not had sin. But now they have no cloak for their sin”. Gee… who does he remind me of? Jesus..believe him and you’ll live forever. Ignore the laws God gave and you will live forever? That’s the oldest trick in the book
You know how much trouble one can get into by not basing our beliefs on facts.
Nothing in the Eden narrative suggests he loved Eve more than God.
There is a grand lesson in Eden and God wasted no time in telling us. It is this:
•Listen to Gods voice and obey him.
•If another voice other than God says differently don’t listen to it. Especially an unidentified voice.
• We are introduced to the adversary. Satan. Not by name but by his description
• the adversary will use mans greatest desire to get nan to disregard Gods commands. Promising eternal life to those who disobey God.
•Their eyes were opened by the adversary. They learned what sin was when the adversary entered Eden.
•we know the adversary has been with us since the beginning
• We learn that one can’t cover their sins in the hope that God won’t punish us.
•We learn that if one tries covering their sins they accuse themself of being guilty,
WHEN GOD CAUGHT UP WITH ADAM AND AND EVE THEY TOLD GID THEY WERE HIDING BECAUSE THEY WERE NAKED. God replied: WHO TOLD YOU THAT YIU WERE NAKED? They told themselves that. As soon as they sinned they knew they did wrong. Their sin manifested itself physically and they covered themselves fig leaves.
By hiding themself it proved to God thst they intentionally disobeyed. They knew what he commanded but disobeyed anyway. Jesus is the fatal fig leaf for those that hide behind him? God will ask why you need Jesus? You are admitting to know you’ve done wrong. So stop doing wrong.
Interestingly enough when Jesus opened the eyes of the blind man a comment was made that Jesus must be from God. They said SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME has anyone opened the eyes if one born blind? They were specific… they said the beginning of time. That would be in Eden. Jesus makes a comment “Had I not come and spoken to them they had not had sin. But now they have no cloak for their sin”. Gee… who does he remind me of? Jesus..believe him and you’ll live forever. Ignore the laws God gave and you will live forever? That’s the oldest trick in the book
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Re: Did Adam make the right choice in letting Eve take a bite?
Post #13[Replying to Avoice in post #12]
However the OP question isn't asking "Why did Adam eat the fruit.
Your post has nothing to do with the OP question or even attempts to answer what the right choice would have been for Adam to make, if he didn't make the right choice letting Eve eat the fruit.
Nothing I can identify in that part of the story narrative, or even the part leading up to it, suggests Adam loved Eve.Nothing in the Eden narrative suggests he loved Eve more than God.
However the OP question isn't asking "Why did Adam eat the fruit.
Your post has nothing to do with the OP question or even attempts to answer what the right choice would have been for Adam to make, if he didn't make the right choice letting Eve eat the fruit.
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Post #15[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #11]
If Adam did love Eve, how can we explain why he stood by and watched/listened as Eve was being tempted by Serpent?
I have no other answer for that other than he must not have loved his wife.
Aligning the idea that Adam loved Eve with the suggestions as to what he might have done differently:
He did not pick up a rock and dash in the head of Serpent before it could further entice Eve.
He did not runaway and find YHVH/call pout to YHVH in a loud voice and tell YHVH what was happening/make YHVH aware of it.
He did not remind Eve that while she could touch the fruit and examine it, she wasn't to eat it, and that the Serpent, while a know-all, didn't know everything.
He did not smack the fruit out of her hand, when she went to bite it.
Should he have let Eve do as she pleased, and wash his hands of her? Would that have been a sign that he loved Eve, but that he loved YHVH more?
Would that have been the right thing for Adam to have done?
Thank you for admitting that.You're right, I'm sorry if I came over as complaining, it was wrong of me to give that impression, I apologise.
The OP question isn't asking why Adam made the choice he did. Rather it asks "Did Adam make the right choice in letting Eve take a bite?" and also asks what other choices Adam had and lists a few examples for discussion.To answer your question as to why Adam made that choice I think it was because he loved his wife more than he loved God.
If Adam did love Eve, how can we explain why he stood by and watched/listened as Eve was being tempted by Serpent?
I have no other answer for that other than he must not have loved his wife.
Aligning the idea that Adam loved Eve with the suggestions as to what he might have done differently:
He did not pick up a rock and dash in the head of Serpent before it could further entice Eve.
He did not runaway and find YHVH/call pout to YHVH in a loud voice and tell YHVH what was happening/make YHVH aware of it.
He did not remind Eve that while she could touch the fruit and examine it, she wasn't to eat it, and that the Serpent, while a know-all, didn't know everything.
He did not smack the fruit out of her hand, when she went to bite it.
Should he have let Eve do as she pleased, and wash his hands of her? Would that have been a sign that he loved Eve, but that he loved YHVH more?
Would that have been the right thing for Adam to have done?
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Post #16There is no point on debating an event (Adam letting Eve to take a bite of the forbidden fruit) that never happened
... and that directly contradicts the event that the Bible actually recounts differently (Eve was thoroughly deceived by Satan __ Gen. 3:13 __ becoming a transgressor __ 1 Tim. 2:14 __ , inviting later Adam to eat with her, so he ate __ Gen. 3:6).
To reinvent the biblical stories to personal taste, a fiction subforum like "Random ramblings" should be used instead, IMO.
... and that directly contradicts the event that the Bible actually recounts differently (Eve was thoroughly deceived by Satan __ Gen. 3:13 __ becoming a transgressor __ 1 Tim. 2:14 __ , inviting later Adam to eat with her, so he ate __ Gen. 3:6).
To reinvent the biblical stories to personal taste, a fiction subforum like "Random ramblings" should be used instead, IMO.
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Post #20Isn't it civil to share my opinion?
If I want to debate why Solomon built a temple in Jerusalem for Molech, that is not a biblical issue but a lack of respect to the word of God.
"The beginning of wisdom is the fear of Jehovah." All Jehovah's Witnesses know that.
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If I want to debate why Solomon built a temple in Jerusalem for Molech, that is not a biblical issue but a lack of respect to the word of God.
"The beginning of wisdom is the fear of Jehovah." All Jehovah's Witnesses know that.
PS: Internet is huge. A forum is not made by the administrator but by the participants.
Until forever.