Jehovah's Witnesses issue four new prophecies

[Miles]

According to a Wikipedia article the Jehovah’s Witnesses people haven't made a prophecy since 1989, 34 years ago. But just today I stumbled across four that were made in 2020. Lucky! Right?


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"STUDY ARTICLE 20
Who Is “the King of the North” Today?

WE HAVE more evidence than ever before that we are living at the end of the last days of this system of things. Soon, Jehovah and Jesus Christ will destroy all governments that oppose the Kingdom. Before that event occurs, the king of the north and the king of the south will continue their conflict with each other and with God’s people."

So, who are these kings of the north and the south?

......... "Note why we can say that today the king of the north is Russia and its allies. . . . ."

......... "They [king of the north and its allies] have been competing with the king of the south, the Anglo-American World Power."

prophecy #1 (what god and Jesus will do to governments that oppose the Kingdom, and when)
1 Soon, Jehovah and Jesus Christ will destroy all governments that oppose the Kingdom.


prophecy #2 (What shape the king of the south be in when god and Jesus destroy all human governments)
10 The prophecy recorded at Daniel 11:40-45 focuses mainly on the activity of the king of the north. Does this mean that he will conquer the king of the south? No. The king of the south will still be “alive” when Jehovah and Jesus destroy all human governments at the war of Armageddon.


prophecy #3 (What the coalition of nations will do to god's people)
14 Sometime after the start of the great tribulation, “the kings of the entire inhabited earth” will form a coalition of nations. (Rev. 16:13, 14; 19:19) That coalition becomes what the Scriptures call “Gog of the land of Magog.” (Ezek. 38:2) That coalition of nations will make one final all-out assault on God’s people.


prophecy #4 (What a person needs to do to be saved and when this will happen)
19 If we [support God’s Kingdom] we will be saved when the king of the north and the king of the south are destroyed by God’s Kingdom.

Publishied May 2020
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OR aren't these prophecies at all?

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[JehovahsWitness]

WHO MADE THE PROPHECY?

The Prophet DANIEL

prophecy #1 (what god and Jesus will do to governments that oppose the Kingdom, and when)

DANIEL 2:44


“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.+ And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever

Compare Rev 2:26, 27

• THE PROPHET DANIEL made Prophecy #1 and said what God and Jesus will do to governments and when

EVIDENCE

Daniel replied to the king: “...there is a God in the heavens who is a Revealer of secrets, and he has made known to King Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar what is to happen in the final part of the days- Daniel 2:27, 28

What is Armageddon?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 289#865289

To learn more please go to other posts related to ...

ARMAGEDDON, DIVINE WAR and ...KILLING IN SCRIPTURE

[JehovahsWitness]

WHO MADE THE PROPHECY?

The Apostle JOHN

prophecy #2 What shape the king of the south be in when god and Jesus destroy all human governments)

REVELATION 19:20



... the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beastb and those who worship its image.While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulfur.d

• THE APOSTLE JOHN made Prophecy #2 and said "what shape the king of the south be in when God and Jesus destroy all human governments

EVIDENCE

A REVELATION by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John" - Revelation 1:1

[JehovahsWitness]

WHO MADE THE PROPHECY?

The Prophet EZEKIEL

prophecy #3 (What the coalition of nations will do to god's people)

EZEKIEL 38:

“So prophesy, son of man, and say to Gog, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “On that day when my people Israel are dwelling in security, will you not know it? 15 You will come from your place, from the remotest parts of the north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great assembly, a vast army.j 16 Like clouds covering the land, you will come against my people Israel

• EZEKIEL made Prophecy #3 and said "what would happen to God's people

EVIDENCE

So prophesy, son of man - Ezekiel 38 : 14

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Does bible prophecy allude to a "coalition of nations" ?
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[JehovahsWitness]

WHO MADE THE PROPHECY?

JESUS OF NAZARETH

prophecy #4 (What a person needs to do to be saved and when this will happen)

MATTHEW 25 : 31-34, 39

When the Son of man+ comes in his glory, and all the angels with him,+ then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep+ on his right hand, but the goats on his left.34 “Then the King will say to those on his right: ‘Come, you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world [...] King will say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

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• Jesus made Prophecy #4 and said "when" it will happen

EVIDENCE

... the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence+ and of the conclusion of the system of things?” In answer Jesus said to them: “ ... Matthew 24:3

[Miles]

They are Prophecies but they are prophecies pronounced by Daniels in the bible.

But none of the prophecies I pointed out

1 . . . . Soon, Jehovah and Jesus Christ will destroy all governments that oppose the Kingdom.

AND

10 . . . .The king of the south will still be “alive” when Jehovah and Jesus destroy all human governments at the war of Armageddon.

AND

14 . . . .That coalition of nations will make one final all-out assault on God’s people.

AND

19 . . . .If we [support God’s Kingdom] we will be saved when the king of the north and the king of the south are destroyed by God’s Kingdom.

are in Daniel or any other book, chapter, and verse cited in the article. They are all prophecies made by Jehovah’s Witnesses people.

10 The prophecy recorded at Daniel 11:40-45 focuses mainly on the activity of the king of the north.

Fine, but this isn't what I was pointing to. Having noted what was prophesied by JW folk in the other three examples in blue and leaving what I did not think they prophesied in black, I thought it would be apparent that in this example the prophecy I had in mind was what I put in blue as well.

10 The prophecy recorded at Daniel 11:40-45 focuses mainly on the activity of the king of the north. Does this mean that he will conquer the king of the south? No. The king of the south will still be “alive” when Jehovah and Jesus destroy all human governments at the war of Armageddon.

My mistake for not making this clear.

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[JehovahsWitness]

But none of the prophecies I pointed out ...are in Daniel or any other book

Incorrect; I have clearly demonstrated with direct quotes as supporting verifiable EVIDENCE that ALL of the prophecies you refered to were made by inspired prophets as recorded in the bible canon. see post #2 - #5

[JehovahsWitness]

To learn more please go to other posts related to

DANIEL'S PROPHECIES , .THE SECOND COMING * and ... THE BOOK OF REVELATION

*The Return of Christ

[Miles]

WHO MADE THE PROPHECY?

The Prophet DANIEL

prophecy #1 (what god and Jesus will do to governments that oppose the Kingdom, and when)

DANIEL 2:44


“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.+ And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever

• THE PROPHET DANIEL made Prophecy #1 and said what God and Jesus will do to governments and when

Doesn't say a thing about God AND Jesus doing anything. So someone in the JW organization slipped Jesus into the mix, prophesying that he would be helping out.

And, of course, the prophecy itself is a bust because as Daniel tells the story, God's kingdom would be set up and destroy the other kingdoms in "the days of those kings," which, of course is long past due. All of which puts the JW 's "soon" on the back burner.

In any case. It was including Jesus in the prophecy that takes it out of the Bible and puts it squarely into the hands of the JWs.

........................... "1 Soon, Jehovah and Jesus Christ will destroy all governments that oppose the Kingdom."

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[JehovahsWitness]

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Doesn't say a thing about God AND Jesus doing anything. So someone in the JW organization slipped Jesus into the mix, prophesying that he would be helping out....It was including Jesus in the prophecy that takes it out of the Bible...

DID DANIEL PROPHECY THAT JESUS WOULD ACT WITH GOD IN KINGDOM POWER?

DANIEL 7:13, 14



“I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man [1] was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days,[2]+ and they brought him up close before that One. 14 And to him there were given rulership,+ honor,+ and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him.+ His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed" - compare Acts 7:56

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[1] The Ancient of days - compare Dan 7:18, 22, 25, 27
[2] The Son of Man - compare Mat 8:20; 9:6; 10:23

• The Prophet DANIEL "slipped Jesus into the mix, prophesying that he would be helping out" EVIDENCE : Daniel chapter 7 v13 , 14