Porn in the Bible?

[JoeMama]

Porn in the Bible

2 Timothy 3:16 says that all scripture is God-breathed and suitable for teaching.

Including x-rated scripture?

"There were two women engaging in prostitution. The older was named Oholah who lusted after men who poured out their lust upon her. Her sister Oholibah lusted after lovers whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." (Ezekiel 23 NIV)

Did God really intend for young Bible-reading teen girls to see this passage? Or, it this one more example showing that all scripture is not God-breathed and suitable for teaching?

[JehovahsWitness]

... what do you regard as perverted sexual education of today?

Perverted sexual education of today is in my personal opinion, any education that encourages people to engage in sexual activities the bible condemns ie any sexual activity other than that between a man and his wife.

[Miles]

... what do you regard as perverted sexual education of today?

Perverted sexual education of today is in my personal opinion, any education that encourages people to engage in sexual activities the bible condemns ie any sexual activity other than that between a man and his wife.

I''m aware that sex education in schools talks about sexual activities. How could it not, but I was unaware it was actually encouraging kids to engage in them. Any evidence would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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[Clownboat]

... what do you regard as perverted sexual education of today?

Perverted sexual education of today is in my personal opinion, any education that encourages people to engage in sexual activities the bible condemns ie any sexual activity other than that between a man and his wife.

I'm not sure about Miles, but I was hoping for an example of it happening, not a description of what you believe it to be.

Is perverted sexual education happening (specifically an education that encourages people to engage in sexual activities the bible condemns) or is it just something you have defined? Where does one go to get this perverted sexual education?

[JehovahsWitness]

I''m aware that sex education in schools talks about sexual activities. ...but I was unaware it was actually encouraging kids to engage in them

I made no mention of "schools"

[Miles]

I''m aware that sex education in schools talks about sexual activities. ...but I was unaware it was actually encouraging kids to engage in them

I made no mention of "schools"

I know. But isn't this what you mean, schools? If not, are you saying this perverted education is not taking place in schools, but somewhere else? If so, where? At home during home schooling perhaps? Mom and dad are engaged in perverted sexual education that sometimes encourages even very young children [their young children no less] to explore the most debased of conduct?

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[JehovahsWitness]

I''m aware that sex education in schools talks about sexual activities. ...but I was unaware it was actually encouraging kids to engage in them

I made no mention of "schools"

I know. But isn't this what you mean, schools? If not, are you saying this perverted education is not taking place in schools, but somewhere else?

Schools is not the only place children learn about sex. Indeed arguably they are more influenced by their peers, the media and society as a whole than by educators or their parents. The world has standards that are generally contrary to the bible which is self evident in the number of people that live together out of wedlock. It is this world system to which I was referring.


JW

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SEX, SIN and ...PORNOGRAPHY

[Miles]

I''m aware that sex education in schools talks about sexual activities. ...but I was unaware it was actually encouraging kids to engage in them

I made no mention of "schools"

I know. But isn't this what you mean, schools? If not, are you saying this perverted education is not taking place in schools, but somewhere else?

Schools is not the only place children learn about sex. Indeed arguably they are more influenced by their peers, the media and society as a whole than by educators or their parents. The world has standards that are generally contrary to the bible which is self evident in the number of people that live together out of wedlock. It is this world system to which I was referring.

Not buying it. When you said:

"Perverted sexual education of today is in my personal opinion, any education that encourages people to engage in sexual activities the bible condemns ie any sexual activity other than that between a man and his wife."

I'm firmly convinced you meant formal education either in school or at home, not influences by peers, media or society as a whole. Gotta do better than this to get out of pickle you've created for yourself.

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[JehovahsWitness]

I believe that the entire Bible is inspried. I believe that Ezekiel (like Zephania or Revelation) is among the more difficult books of the Bible to study, but still true, valuable and useful. I don't think that there are any concepts in the passage listed that the average teen girl would be entirely unfamiliar with.

Are you looking for a Bible study about the application of the 23 chapter of Ezekiel?

Have to agree - it's shocking only because the existence of bestality is shocking but the whole point of the story is that God disapproves of such behaviours.


JW

[JoeMama]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #9]

JoeMama wrote:

"There were two women engaging in prostitution. The older was named Oholah who lusted after men who poured out their lust upon her. Her sister Oholibah lusted after lovers whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." (Ezekiel 23 NIV)

Did God really intend for young Bible-reading teen girls to see this passage? ...

JW claims:

There is nothing pornographic in the bible.

JoeMama:

I may be wrong, but I think that most persons, including yourself and the elders in churches and Kingdom Halls would say that a description of a woman lustfully desiring large penises for her sexual pleasure is pornographic, and not something any parent would want their 9-year old daughter to read.

Do you think so?

Would you dare to take that passage to the elders of your Kingdom Hall and ask them what they think about it?

Will you do that, and then get back to us to let us know what they said?

[JehovahsWitness]

I may be wrong, but I think that most persons, including yourself and the elders in churches and Kingdom Halls would say that a description of a woman lustfully desiring large penises for her sexual pleasure is pornographic ...

Not you "may be wrong", you ARE wrong. See above.


The bible contains no PORNOGRAPHY; if reference to genitas or seminal emissions were pornography half the world's medical journals as well as biology and sex education books would be classed as pornographic.

EZEKIEL 23 : 20 NIV

There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

There's no part of the bible that we would need to protect any child from. Even the youngest of children should learn the correct name for body parts (genitals) and pre-teens should be given age appropriate information as to what should and should not be done with them. Anyone that thinks the word "genitals" or "emissions" will make a pre-teen faint dead away is delusional. They will either understand the words or they will not, at which point it is for their parents to give them an age appropriate answer to any questions they may ask.

Although the immorality being alluded to is truley repugnant, it remains a mere similie which is not the least bit graphic and to the best or my knowledge we no longer live in Victorian England when the mere mention of genitilia evoke screams of public "indecency".