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Evangelical Americans help Uganda create, and pass, the "Kill the gays" law.

Where did they get the idea to kill gay people? Why would this seem right to a Christian?

Is this a good example of how dangerous religion is?

What Christians would dare argue against a command from God?
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boatsnguitars wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:32 am https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... ole-uganda

Evangelical Americans help Uganda create, and pass, the "Kill the gays" law.

Where did they get the idea to kill gay people? Why would this seem right to a Christian?

Is this a good example of how dangerous religion is?

What Christians would dare argue against a command from God?
1. The article is not a credible source of information it was written 13 years ago
2. The article is biased because it labelling all evangelical christians as supporters of killing gays
3. There is no reference to the source of information came from
4. There is no evidence if the author is a qualified or an expert in the field

Many Christians condone the murder of homosexuals , however because it against our belief system we will not support it because it means that we are encouraging people to be homosexual . Christianity and the African traditions and customs do not support homosexual rights . The Ugandan people are nation that firmly belief in the their culture and traditions and see homosexuality as defiance and a sign as of weakness . Homosexuality is highly associated with affluent nations and is a luxury . The Ugandan people do not care about homosexual rights because they are faced with real issues such a poverty , lack of access to education , lack of access to clean water etc. No one is going to care about homosexual rights when they can even have food on their plate to eat or drink clean water . When nation decide to impose their way of life on other nations it is met with extreme hostility like a death penalty bill to homosexuals . USA has no right to talk about human rights violations or unfair laws especially when it has committed the most atrocities and has very unfair laws to minority groups within its own country . It also doesn't impose such laws in countries such as the UAE or Russia or Qatar . Allow nations to take the natural course of slowly accepting it

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In the Bible, more often than not God gets human beings to do his killing for him. I'm sure that many Christians would love to be able to kill homosexuals but are prevented from doing so by the law. It must be satisfying for them to be able to encourage others who feel no such limitations to carry out these actions and not have to accept any personal responsibility.
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Adonai Yahweh wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:55 pm
boatsnguitars wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:32 am https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... ole-uganda

Evangelical Americans help Uganda create, and pass, the "Kill the gays" law.

Where did they get the idea to kill gay people? Why would this seem right to a Christian?

Is this a good example of how dangerous religion is?

What Christians would dare argue against a command from God?
1. The article is not a credible source of information it was written 13 years ago
2. The article is biased because it labelling all evangelical christians as supporters of killing gays
3. There is no reference to the source of information came from
4. There is no evidence if the author is a qualified or an expert in the field

Many Christians condone the murder of homosexuals , however because it against our belief system we will not support it because it means that we are encouraging people to be homosexual . Christianity and the African traditions and customs do not support homosexual rights . The Ugandan people are nation that firmly belief in the their culture and traditions and see homosexuality as defiance and a sign as of weakness . Homosexuality is highly associated with affluent nations and is a luxury . The Ugandan people do not care about homosexual rights because they are faced with real issues such a poverty , lack of access to education , lack of access to clean water etc. No one is going to care about homosexual rights when they can even have food on their plate to eat or drink clean water . When nation decide to impose their way of life on other nations it is met with extreme hostility like a death penalty bill to homosexuals . USA has no right to talk about human rights violations or unfair laws especially when it has committed the most atrocities and has very unfair laws to minority groups within its own country . It also doesn't impose such laws in countries such as the UAE or Russia or Qatar . Allow nations to take the natural course of slowly accepting it
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-new ... -rcna86774

May 30, 2023, 1:37 PM BST / Source: Reuters
By Reuters
KAMPALA, Uganda — Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni signed one of the world’s toughest anti-LGBTQ laws, including the death penalty for “aggravated homosexuality,” drawing Western condemnation and risking sanctions from aid donors.

Same-sex relations were already illegal in Uganda, as in more than 30 other African countries, but the new law goes further.

It stipulates capital punishment for “serial offenders” against the law and transmission of a terminal illness like HIV/AIDS through gay sex. It also decrees a 20-year sentence for “promoting” homosexuality.

“The Ugandan president has today legalized state-sponsored homophobia and transphobia,” said Clare Byarugaba, a Ugandan rights activist.

President Joe Biden called the move “a tragic violation” of human rights and said Washington would evaluate the implications of the law “on all aspects of U.S. engagement with Uganda.”

“We are considering additional steps, including the application of sanctions and restriction of entry into the United States against anyone involved in serious human rights abuses or corruption,” he said.

A presidency photo of Museveni showed him signing the law with a golden pen at his desk. The 78-year-old has called homosexuality a “deviation from normal” and urged lawmakers to resist “imperialist” pressure.

A local organization, Human Rights Awareness and Promotion Forum, and 10 other individuals later filed a complaint against the law at the constitutional court, one of the petitioners, Busingye Kabumba, told Reuters.

Museveni had sent the original bill passed in March back, asking parliament to tone down some provisions. But his ultimate approval was not seen as in doubt in a conservative country where anti-LGBTQ attitudes have hardened in recent years, in part due to campaigning by Western evangelical church groups.

Uganda receives billions of dollars in foreign aid each year and could now face adverse measures from donors and investors, as happened with a similar bill nine years ago.

Reprisals?
The bill’s sponsor, Asuman Basalirwa, told reporters that parliament speaker Anita Among’s U.S. visa was canceled after the law was signed. Among and the U.S. Embassy in Uganda did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

In a joint statement, the U.S.’s flagship HIV/AIDS program, PEPFAR, the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, and the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS said the law put Uganda’s anti-HIV fight “in grave jeopardy.”

Dominic Arnall, chief executive of Open for Business, a coalition of companies that includes Google and Microsoft, said the group was deeply disappointed and the law ran counter to Ugandans’ economic interests.

The U.N. human rights body declared itself “appalled.”

Uganda’s move could encourage lawmakers in neighboring Kenya and Tanzania seeking similar measures.

“Kenya is following you in this endeavour to save humanity.”

The inclusion of the death penalty for offenses like transmitting HIV has drawn particular outrage internationally.

Existing Ugandan law calls for a maximum 10-year sentence for intentionally transmitting HIV and does not apply when the person who contracted the infection was aware of their sexual partner’s HIV status.

By contrast, the new law makes no distinction between intentional and unintentional transmission and contains no exception based on awareness of HIV status.

The amended version of the bill, adopted earlier this month after Museveni returned it to parliament, stipulated that merely identifying as LGBTQ is not a crime and revised a measure that obliged people to report homosexual activity to only require reporting when a child is involved.

'Like apartheid'
LGBTQ Ugandans called those changes useless, saying law enforcement regularly exceeds its legal authorities to harass them. They said passage of the bill in March unleashed a wave of arrests, evictions and mob attacks.

The issue has been a long-running one in Uganda.

A less restrictive 2014 anti-LGBTQ law was struck down by a Ugandan court on procedural grounds, after Western governments had initially suspended some aid, imposed visa restrictions and curtailed security cooperation.

In 2009, a bill dubbed “kill the gays” for initially proposing executing homosexuals was introduced after a conference in Kampala drew representatives from the United States including prominent anti-gay evangelical Scott Lively.

As well as religious campaigning, Africa’s anti-LGBTQ attitudes also have their roots in the colonial era, including an anti-sodomy section of Britain’s penal code. By the time the UK legalized same-sex acts in 1967, many former colonies were independent and did not inherit the legal change.

“To reduce any kind of human being, irrespective of their sexuality, to a death sentence based on who they identify as and how they choose to live their lives is something that we should all feel very ashamed about as a continent,” said South African filmmaker Lerato.

“We can liken this to apartheid if not worse.”

Reuters
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Adonai Yahweh wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:55 pm
boatsnguitars wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:32 am https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... ole-uganda

Evangelical Americans help Uganda create, and pass, the "Kill the gays" law.

Where did they get the idea to kill gay people? Why would this seem right to a Christian?

Is this a good example of how dangerous religion is?

What Christians would dare argue against a command from God?
1. The article is not a credible source of information it was written 13 years ago
2. The article is biased because it labelling all evangelical christians as supporters of killing gays
3. There is no reference to the source of information came from
4. There is no evidence if the author is a qualified or an expert in the field

Many Christians condone the murder of homosexuals , however because it against our belief system we will not support it because it means that we are encouraging people to be homosexual . Christianity and the African traditions and customs do not support homosexual rights . The Ugandan people are nation that firmly belief in the their culture and traditions and see homosexuality as defiance and a sign as of weakness . Homosexuality is highly associated with affluent nations and is a luxury . The Ugandan people do not care about homosexual rights because they are faced with real issues such a poverty , lack of access to education , lack of access to clean water etc. No one is going to care about homosexual rights when they can even have food on their plate to eat or drink clean water . When nation decide to impose their way of life on other nations it is met with extreme hostility like a death penalty bill to homosexuals . USA has no right to talk about human rights violations or unfair laws especially when it has committed the most atrocities and has very unfair laws to minority groups within its own country . It also doesn't impose such laws in countries such as the UAE or Russia or Qatar . Allow nations to take the natural course of slowly accepting it
How horrible. How many years? 2000? How many people do you think they should kill before they accept the love between two people is better than killing people?

Why aren't Christians up in arms about this? Because they hate gay people.

As Adoni said:

"Many Christians condone the murder of homosexuals , however because it against our belief system we will not support it because it means that we are encouraging people to be homosexual"

What utter barbarity.
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How horrible. How many years? 2000? How many people do you think they should kill before they accept the love between two people is better than killing people?
Changes of attitudes and behaviours are not instant , if that were the case there would be no racism in this world . In America black americans endured 200 years of slavery , despite the legaslative changes they are still enduring the effects of slavery today . Discrimination , racial stereotypes etc . Yet how many black americans have suffered and continue to suffer today . How many black american men and women have died in the hands of police or face discrimination at workplaces , public areas etc . How many more years will they have to endure to finally be treated equally as white americans . So making statements like that does prove anything because other issues that have been around before the LGBT issues have still not been resolved today .

Why aren't Christians up in arms about this? Because they hate gay people.

They are many churches that have spoken against the law

https://www.indcatholicnews.com/news/47337
https://www.firstthings.com/blogs/first ... ality-bill

And also apply the same outrage to Islamic countries like Yemen , Saudi Arabia and Iran where it is punishable by death to be gay . Selective outrage is biased , because no one has every questioned those countries

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