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What has the Bible to do with reality...

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Namaskaram...

I think we are in fantasyland when the Bible say a man - Noah - lived for 950 years. Why do anybody think it is not just fantasy? Maybe a muslim can help? Do you buy this solution...



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In my book it is not forbidden to drink O:) Let us listen to SPEECH OF CHRIST (LOVE ONE ANOTHER!) from the book - Toward the Light - I will just quote that about drinking...
Be prudent with all strong drink and dulling drugs; for you shall know that you yourselves must bear the full responsibility for the foolish, evil and wicked deeds that you commit when you lose control of your senses and of your will through carelessness or evil habits.
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Waterfall wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:44 pm [Replying to kjw47 in post #39]

Namaskaram kjw47

In my book it is not forbidden to drink O:) Let us listen to SPEECH OF CHRIST (LOVE ONE ANOTHER!) from the book - Toward the Light - I will just quote that about drinking...
Be prudent with all strong drink and dulling drugs; for you shall know that you yourselves must bear the full responsibility for the foolish, evil and wicked deeds that you commit when you lose control of your senses and of your will through carelessness or evil habits.
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Drinking alcohol isn't condemned in the bible, getting drunk is condemned. Paul used the word spiritism at Gal 5:19-21--The Greek word= Pharmicia-thus drug addiction will keep one out of Gods kingdom just like drunkeness will.

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Namaskaram kjw47

As I see it. If you get drunk and do not sin then it is alright. Some can control themself, some can not (they should not get drunk). I like to get drunk once in a while. Just to break the normal state of mind. I sit at home and drink and has a good time with myself O:) We are here on earth and not in Heaven. For inspiration...



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Yes. I'll put aside that some cultured even applaud drunkenness (though I suspect they may just mean becoming enlivened and relaxed) but I have a Problem with the western idea that being drunk is nice and enjoyable. It has happened to me a couple of times and I now stop as seen as the Buzz gets too loud.

But you are correct that the Bible (NT or Old does not prohibit alcohol, provided (agreed) one does not get smashed. True Islam Does forbid alcohol, but apparently as a sacrifice as if you qualify for paradise you can hit the sauce eternally thereafter.

I don't know whether any Christian sects still do forbid alcohol, but I can only say 'good for them, and let them have a fun time with all their friends.


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Waterfall wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:49 am [Replying to kjw47 in post #42]

Namaskaram kjw47

As I see it. If you get drunk and do not sin then it is alright. Some can control themself, some can not (they should not get drunk). I like to get drunk once in a while. Just to break the normal state of mind. I sit at home and drink and has a good time with myself O:) We are here on earth and not in Heaven. For inspiration...



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Best believe 1 Cor 6:9-11-It says drunkards will not inherit Gods kingdom. Which has more value to you?

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I understand this...
Be prudent with all strong drink and dulling drugs; for you shall know that you yourselves must bear the full responsibility for the foolish, evil and wicked deeds that you commit when you lose control of your senses and of your will through carelessness or evil habits.
If you get drunk and do not sin then it is alright. I do not think it is good to be drunk every day. But once in a while, why not? I am here on earth and are enjoying life O:) For inspiration...



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Waterfall wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:27 am [Replying to kjw47 in post #45]

Namaskaram kjw47

I understand this...
Be prudent with all strong drink and dulling drugs; for you shall know that you yourselves must bear the full responsibility for the foolish, evil and wicked deeds that you commit when you lose control of your senses and of your will through carelessness or evil habits.
If you get drunk and do not sin then it is alright. I do not think it is good to be drunk every day. But once in a while, why not? I am here on earth and are enjoying life O:) For inspiration...



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Gods view matters, not mans--Drunkards will NOT inherit Gods kingdom--See at 1 Cor 6:9-11 it says--That is what some of you were = past tense, they turned around and repented and stopped doing those unacceptable sins. Reasonings from this heart(Jeremiah 17:9) looks at it differently than God does.

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Whoever said we wanted God's Kingdom? It sounds pretty awful. Lass mie betrunken sein.


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From one of my favorite compositions. :D
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Namaskaram kjw47

Christ (and God) has spoken here about drinking...
Be prudent with all strong drink and dulling drugs; for you shall know that you yourselves must bear the full responsibility for the foolish, evil and wicked deeds that you commit when you lose control of your senses and of your will through carelessness or evil habits.
Does it matter to you ;-) I will keep on getting drunk once in a while and have a good time with myself O:) Can we move on and talk about my thoughts :heart: Post #29...

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