Counting generations in one's family tree

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Counting generations in one's family tree

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Thinking about the genetic inheritance from my earliest ancestors to me ... it occurs to me that if my family had recorded ancestors with the same care that Jews and other ancients did from the beginning of humanity, I might find many interesting details about who they were and where my relatively distant ancestors lived, before I was born on an island in the Cuban archipelago.

I could calculate with some degree of accuracy and objectivity how many generations I would have to go back in my family tree until I reached the creation of the first human couple. As far as I know no known human civilization (for all that that word entails in the sense of human development) has been dated with certainty before the year of the Biblical creation of Adam and Eve, around 4025 BC.

Evolutionist friend, tell me: what would be the number of generations that you would have to go back in your family tree, until your ancestor is no longer an intelligent human being but a simple ape that can be considered as a common animal?

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[Replying to Eloi in post #39]
This is a debate forum, not a conference room.
Yet you have failed to debate even a single point, or support any of your claims with anything but bible verses. Meanwhile I, and others, have supplied many external references to support our claims that you simply ignore and instead just repeat the same anti-science statements over and over. There is no debating from your side, or even an attempt to do so. You'll get challenges here to your claims that are based purely on religious beliefs, not science. If you don't want rebuttals (this is a debate forum after all) from the science perspective or don't want to debate the science ... you should find another forum section to post your evolution-bashing comments in.
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DrNoGods wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:12 pm [Replying to Eloi in post #39]
This is a debate forum, not a conference room.
Yet you have failed to debate even a single point, or support any of your claims with anything but bible verses. Meanwhile I, and others, have supplied many external references to support our claims that you simply ignore and instead just repeat the same anti-science statements over and over. There is no debating from your side, or even an attempt to do so. You'll get challenges here to your claims that are based purely on religious beliefs, not science. If you don't want rebuttals (this is a debate forum after all) from the science perspective or don't want to debate the science ... you should find another forum section to post your evolution-bashing comments in.
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[Replying to Eloi in post #40]
What idiocy!
Why was it idiocy? Argue against her comments and why they are idiotic. Just making statements like this with no argument to support them isn't debating ... it is just more offering of personal opinion and useless. Tell us all why her argument is idiotic ... if you can.
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Just sharing again ...
Eloi wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:39 pm Has any evolutionist meditated on what was the mechanism by which species inherited the instinct that makes them repeat behaviors of all kinds automatically?

Let us mention a well-known example: animal migrations. There are birds, butterflies, fish, etc., that repeat very long migrations year after year, and sometimes even die in a distant place, like monarch butterflies, and their descendants that never experienced the journey, return to the same beginning where the cycle begins. Who started the endless cycles of migratory animals? How and when did these endless cycles begin and how did the inheritance mechanism of these cycles from parents to descendants begin? :?:

God made it. :study:
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Eloi wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:09 pm What idiocy! :D
That's the kind of lectures that fans of evolutionists are used to.
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Eloi wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:39 pm Has any evolutionist meditated on what was the mechanism by which species inherited the instinct that makes them repeat behaviors of all kinds automatically?
The important thing is that those migratory species do have the instinct. You are just claiming that it is impossible for it to have evolved over time and therefore ...
God made it. :study:
OK, now all that is left for you to do is prove it, or at least provide some sort of mechanism by which God imbued them with their instincts rather than evolution.
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Eloi wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:43 pm Thinking about the genetic inheritance from my earliest ancestors to me ... it occurs to me that if my family had recorded ancestors with the same care that Jews and other ancients did from the beginning of humanity, I might find many interesting details about who they were and where my relatively distant ancestors lived, before I was born on an island in the Cuban archipelago.

I could calculate with some degree of accuracy and objectivity how many generations I would have to go back in my family tree until I reached the creation of the first human couple. As far as I know no known human civilization (for all that that word entails in the sense of human development) has been dated with certainty before the year of the Biblical creation of Adam and Eve, around 4025 BC.

Evolutionist friend, tell me: what would be the number of generations that you would have to go back in your family tree, until your ancestor is no longer an intelligent human being but a simple ape that can be considered as a common animal?
That would be a time and place tens of thousands of years back where an ancestor who is also Hollywood Film Producer produces a movie series " Planet of the Humans " - That woud be proof that he is an ape !
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