The Mental Health of Jesus

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The Mental Health of Jesus

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This was brought to mind when I looked into the various pronouncements by Jesus that he was god. See HERE and HERE

Then I came across the following remarks about his mental health in the Wikipedia entry: "Mental health of Jesus"

"The question of whether the historical Jesus was in good mental health has been explored by multiple psychologists, philosophers, historians, and writers.
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Opinions challenging the sanity of Jesus
The assessment of the sanity of Jesus first occurs in the gospels. The Gospel of Mark [Mark 3:21 (KJV)] reports the opinion of members of his family who believe that Jesus "is beside himself." [or "is out of his mind"-(NKJV)] Some psychiatrists, religious scholars and writers explain that Jesus' family, followers (John 7:20),] and contemporaries seriously regarded him as delusional, possessed by demons, or insane

And when his family heard it, they went out to seize him, for people were saying, "He is beside himself". And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, "He is possessed by Be-el′zebul, and by the prince of demons he casts out the demons".
— Mark 3:21–22, Revised Standard Version

The accusation contained in the Gospel of John is more literal:

There was again a division among the Jews because of these words. Many of them said, "He has a demon, and he is mad; why listen to him?"
— John 10:19–20, Revised Standard Version

Binet-Sanglé diagnosed Jesus as suffering from religious paranoia:

In short, the nature of the hallucinations of Jesus, as they are described in the orthodox Gospels, permits us to conclude that the founder of Christian religion was afflicted with religious paranoia.

His view was shared by the New York psychiatrist William Hirsch, who in 1912 published his study, Religion and Civilization: The Conclusions of a Psychiatrist, which enumerated a number of Jesus' mentally-aberrant behaviours. Hirsch agreed with Binet-Sanglé in that Jesus had been afflicted with hallucinations and pointed to his "megalomania, which mounted ceaselessly and immeasurably". Hirsch concluded that Jesus was just a "paranoid":
— (vol. 2, p. 393)

But Christ offers in every respect an absolutely typical picture of a wellknown mental disease. All that we know of him corresponds so exactly to the clinical aspect of paranoia, that it is hardly conceivable how anybody at all acquainted with mental disorders, can entertain the slightest doubt as to the correctness of the diagnosis.
— (p. 103)

New Testament scholar Andrew Jacob Mattill Jr. [Wikidata] in his article in The Book Your Church Doesn't Want You To Read (1993), he draws attention to the ever-increasing megalomania of "John's Jesus" (described in the Gospel of John 6:29, 35, 38, 40, 47-58; 7:38; 8:12; 11:25-26; 14:6, 13-14) and concludes:

The more trust one puts in the Fourth Gospel's portrait of Jesus the more difficult it is to defend the sanity of Jesus.

In 2012, a team of psychiatrists, behavioral psychologists, neurologists and neuropsychiatrists from the Harvard Medical School published a research that suggested the development of a new diagnostic category of psychiatric disorders related to religious delusion and hyperreligiosity. They compared the thoughts and behaviors of the most important figures in the Bible (Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Paul) with patients affected by mental disorders related to the psychotic spectrum using different clusters of disorders and diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV-TR), and concluded that these Biblical figures "may have had psychotic symptoms that contributed inspiration for their revelations", such as schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, bipolar disorder, delusional disorder, delusions of grandeur, auditory-visual hallucinations, paranoia, Geschwind syndrome (especially Paul) and abnormal experiences associated with temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE). According to the authors, in the case of Jesus, it could have been: paranoid schizophrenia, bipolar and schizoaffective disorders. They hypothesized that Jesus may have sought death through "suicide-by-proxy" (indirect suicide)

Question: Could it be that Jesus was mentally unhealthy? So much so that he was religiously delusional? After all, several of the Bible verses mentioned above suggest this might be the case. That he "is mad." "He has a demon." "He is possessed by Be-el′zebul," and that "he "is out of his mind."
I realize that it's highly unlikely that anyone here is in any position to challenge the remarks of any of the professional people mentioned above, but as a lay person what would be your argument against the notion that Jesus was mentally unhealthy?


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Re: The Mental Health of Jesus

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[Replying to bjs1 in post #20]
But, friend, what if that claiming was right and still he was insane ???

Makes you shudder, no ???

In this case Jesus was some sort of Azag-Thoth with a beard and a flair for baptizing infants 😨

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azathoth


Extending that theory it makes C.S.Lewis False Trichotomy " Lunatic Liar or Lord " untrue even in the case we take it as a true and sound trilemma.

For the trichotomy in itself proves itself unsound for leaving out the possibility four : " Lunatic AND Lord ! "
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Re: The Mental Health of Jesus

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The Nice Centurion wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:25 am [Replying to bjs1 in post #20]
But, friend, what if that claiming was right and still he was insane ???
That is possible, though all the arguments about Jesus’ mental health in this thread deal with his claim to be God who came to give his life for many. If we take every reference to that out then we would have to start from scratch trying to find a reason to question Jesus’ mental health. Maybe someone could find something, but to me it looks like if we don’t include Jesus’ claims to be God who would die for us, then there is nothing in the Gospels to suggest poor mental health.
The Nice Centurion wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:25 am Makes you shudder, no ???
Not particularly, no.

The Nice Centurion wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:25 am Extending that theory it makes C.S.Lewis False Trichotomy " Lunatic Liar or Lord " untrue even in the case we take it as a true and sound trilemma.

For the trichotomy in itself proves itself unsound for leaving out the possibility four : " Lunatic AND Lord ! "
Since you gave this part of the topic its own thread I will respond there.
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