If not the Consensus of Experts, Who ought we Trust?

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If not the Consensus of Experts, Who ought we Trust?

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If there is a consensus among experts on an issue, should we - presumably non-experts - provisionally accept their view?
If not, how do you come to a provisional belief about something that you don't know anything about it?

For example, should a person who hasn't heard of Jesus accept that the consensus of experts that Jesus most probably was a real person?
Should we accept the vast majority of Climate Scientists on Climate Change? (Or should we reject Environmentalism because it's all about the money, unlike - I guess - the oil industry....)
Should we accept the consensus of doctors on Covid, or listen to our Aunt who read in her tea leaves and claims the vaccine is so the Gub'm'n't can track us?
If you were to take an airplane, would you want someone who has passed a series of tests proctored by experts, or someone who claims to know how to fly on Faith?

The Bonus Question is: How do you know if someone is an expert on God or the Supernatural? What can we test them on? If they can quote their Holy Text?
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Re: If not the Consensus of Experts, Who ought we Trust?

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brunumb wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:58 pm
boatsnguitars wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:05 pm It's a strange thing. I feel it's one of the reasons Christianity is so successful among so many people: it's a celebration of martyrdom, and so the adherent gains more affinity with Jesus in his martyrdom when the adherent experiences their own feeling of persecution. The more they feel persecuted, the better, so they find ways from the benign to extreme, to garner that persecution.
There is an interesting book on martyrdom "The Myth of Persecution" by Candida Moss. From a review (link below):
There were reports of fanatics deliberately seeking out the opportunity to die for their faith, including a mob that turned up at the door of a Roman official in Asia Minor, demanding to be martyred, only to be turned away when he couldn't be bothered to oblige them.
https://www.salon.com/2013/02/24/the_my ... ersecuted/
I had heard about that. It's wild. There seems to be a certain percentage of the population simply wired to want to be punished. It's like a fetish. Also, I'm not the first person to notice that Jesus hanging on the cross, whipped, nude and bloody is a masochists wet dream.
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Re: If not the Consensus of Experts, Who ought we Trust?

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otseng wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:18 pm
LittleNipper wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:53 pm IN GOD WE TRUST

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I find this a very narrow minded response on your part. The question was clearly asked, "If not the Consensus of Experts, Who ought we Trust?" I believe that "WE" need to trust in GOD and that was my answer and shall remain so! And this is found upon US currency which in essence backs my opinion up! It would seem you're the one being rather caustic, while mine has been accepted for may years without question and hits the nail on the head.

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LittleNipper wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:33 am It would seem you're the one being rather caustic, while mine has been accepted for may years without question and hits the nail on the head.
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otseng wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:08 pm
LittleNipper wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:33 am It would seem you're the one being rather caustic, while mine has been accepted for may years without question and hits the nail on the head.
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