Christians and Guns

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Christians and Guns

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Every day, 321 people are shot in the United States. Among those:
111 people are shot and killed
210 survive gunshot injuries
95 are intentionally shot by someone else and survive
42 are murdered
65 die from gun suicide
10 survive an attempted gun suicide
1 is killed unintentionally
90 are shot unintentionally and survive
1 is killed by legal intervention*
4 are shot by legal intervention and survive
1 died but the intent was unknown
12 are shot and survive but the intent was unknown

DAILY GUN VIOLENCE IMPACTING CHILDREN AND TEENS (1-17)
Every day, 22 children and teens (1-17) are shot in the United States. Among those:
5 die from gun violence
3 are murdered
17 children and teens survive gunshot injuries
8 are intentionally shot by someone else and survive
2 children and teens either die from gun suicide or survive an attempted gun suicide
8 children and teens are unintentionally shot in instances of family fire — a shooting involving an improperly stored or misused gun found in the home resulting in injury or death

ANNUAL GUN VIOLENCE IMPACTING PEOPLE OF ALL AGES IN THE U.S.
Every year, 117,345 people are shot. Among those:
40,620 people die from gun violence
15,343 are murdered
76,725 people survive gunshot injuries
34,566 are intentionally shot by someone else and survive
23,891 die from gun suicide
3,554 survive an attempted gun suicide
492 killed unintentionally
547 are killed by legal intervention
1,376 are shot by legal intervention and survive
347 die but the intent was unknown
4,471 are shot and survive but the intent is unknown
547 women are killed by their husband or male dating partner**

ANNUAL GUN VIOLENCE IMPACTING CHILDREN AND TEENS (AGES 1-17)
Every year, 7,957 children and teens are shot in the United States. Among those:
1839 children and teens die from gun violence
992 are murdered
6,294 children and teens survive gunshot injuries
2,788 are intentionally shot by someone else and survive
693 die from gun suicide
166 survive an attempted gun suicide
10 are killed by legal intervention
101 are shot by legal intervention and survive
99 are killed unintentionally
2,893 are shot unintentionally and survive
38 die but the intent was unknown
380 are and survive shot but the intent is unknown



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Re: Christians and Guns

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Clownboat wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:41 am ...because democrats and republicans are too busy blaming each other in place of working together. ...
Sounds like scapegoating.... No?
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boatsnguitars wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:48 am
Clownboat wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:41 am ...because democrats and republicans are too busy blaming each other in place of working together. ...
Sounds like scapegoating.... No?
If you are meaning how one party blames the another, then yes. What I believe were are noticing is just humans doing their natural tribal human behavior and rulers taking advantage of it.

How do you divide and conquer people?
Elements of this technique involve:
creating or encouraging divisions among the subjects to prevent alliances that could challenge the sovereign and distributing forces so that they overpower each other.

IMO, encouraging/creating division is similar to: Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
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Re: Christians and Guns

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boatsnguitars wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:59 pm WWJD? Nothing?
He'd join the NRA and vote for Trump as dictator.


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Re: Christians and Guns

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boatsnguitars wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:47 am
Wootah wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:04 pm [Replying to boatsnguitars in post #76]

That sounds like scapegoating. Blaming a boogeyman. Highly religious thought processes.
Gosh, I don't want to be religious! That would be the worst.

But, i have to wonder if you are mistaking scapegoating for pointing out the responsible party. That is, if Responsibility is important to you?
No trust me on this one. Yes the conservatives are responsible something we should ask aim to be.
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