Is Donald Trump an atheist?

historia · Post by **historia** » Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:19 pm

Muckman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:56 pm
boatsnguitars wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:58 pm
Trump is also an atheist, most likely by the credible accounts we here

Sorry big guy but you'll never convince many of us that Trump was or is an Atheist.

Question for debate: Is Donald Trump likely an atheist?

Muckman · Post by **Muckman** » Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:22 pm

[Replying to historia in post #1]

What does it even matter - I'm voting for him anyway!

help3434 · Post by **help3434** » Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:46 am

[Replying to historia in post #1]
I have no reason to doubt that Trump has some kind of vague belief in God. I do very much doubt that Trump is a worshiper.

Post by **Tcg** » Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:54 am

help3434 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:46 am [Replying to historia in post #1]
I have no reason to doubt that Trump has some kind of vague belief in God. I do very much doubt that Trump is a worshiper.

Well, not of God. There appears to be many things he does worship. Power and control are likely possibilities for instance.

It seems very unlikely that he is an atheist though.

Tcg

oldbadger · Post by **oldbadger** » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:46 pm

Tcg wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:54 am
help3434 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:46 am [Replying to historia in post #1]
I have no reason to doubt that Trump has some kind of vague belief in God. I do very much doubt that Trump is a worshiper.
Well, not of God. There appears to be many things he does worship. Power and control are likely possibilities for instance.

It seems very unlikely that he is an atheist though.

Tcg

........and Mammon!
And like any self respecting megalomaniac, himself.

If Trump gets in to power again, he will not need all those 'evangelical Christians ' any more......I think that will be a shock for many of his voters.

Purple Knight · Post by **Purple Knight** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:06 am

Muckman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:22 pm [Replying to historia in post #1]

What does it even matter - I'm voting for him anyway!

Good. You ought to vote for whosoever you like the policies of.

There are very few reasons to do otherwise.

The religious argument seems to be, the one that is any good anyway, that it is probably better to vote for someone religious because they might be afraid that if they lie, cheat, steal, ruin the country, they might fear some sort of divine punishment. But this does not stop atheists from lying and saying they're religious, to become politicians. In this way I think someone who says they are an atheist, is likely to be at least honest.

Athetotheist · Post by **Athetotheist** » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:33 am

[Replying to Purple Knight in post #6

The religious argument seems to be, the one that is any good anyway, that it is probably better to vote for someone religious because they might be afraid that if they lie, cheat, steal, ruin the country, they might fear some sort of divine punishment.

But their voters are still willing to overlook anything they do because "God uses imperfect people." They might even make excuses for it (So what if our guy is a skirt chaser? The kings of Israel had concubines!).

They don't use the Bible to interpret their politics; they use their politics to interpret the Bible.

justlearning · Post by **justlearning** » Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:15 pm

Re: Is Donald Trump an atheist?
YES
Trump is a pathological liar.
Trump is a pathological egotist.
Trump is a want-a-be dictator.

Please, I implore the American community to see threw TRUMPS lies and deceit.
I pray to God to open America’s eyes to see the truth~~~
(VOTE) !!!!!

Post by **Tcg** » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:14 pm

justlearning wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:15 pm Re: Is Donald Trump an atheist?
YES
Trump is a pathological liar.
Trump is a pathological egotist.
Trump is a want-a-be dictator.

Are these three statements about Trump what lead to your conclusion that he is an atheist? If so, can you justify why you think these are traits of atheists? I'm an atheist and am none of those things.

Tcg

Purple Knight · Post by **Purple Knight** » Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:38 pm

Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:14 pm Are these three statements about Trump what lead to your conclusion that he is an atheist? If so, can you justify why you think these are traits of atheists? I'm an atheist and am none of those things.

There's an argument that while not every atheist will have these traits, someone who does believe in God, will not. Imagine if you were egotistical (like I happen to be) and you thought that unless you dissolved that trait entirely, you'd go to Hell.

The one counterpoint is that if I thought I'd be tortured eternally for having a big head, I'd of course try not to be that way, but whether I'd succeed or not seems to be the bigger question. Frankly I think trying is how you end up with these passive-aggressive humble people who are very in-your-face with their obnoxious humility and self-effacement. I don't think it's that easy to change, but that's just my opinion.