2ndpillar2 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:53 pm
onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:58 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:41 pm
Wootah wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:36 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:20 pm
As Yeshua said, the "ruler (Lord) of the world is coming, and he has nothing in me" (John 14:30). As shown in Revelation 13, the Lord of the kings (beasts) is the dragon (Rev 13:4), who is Satan (Rev 20:2). Satan is a fallen angel and is represented in Daniel 10 as a prince of the Gentiles/Greece, who fights the Lord of Israel, who according to Daniel, was described as a "certain man", and "Lord", and one who "resembled a human being" (Daniel 20). As for Hebrews, it is written by an unknown author, with credit often going to the false prophet Paul. No wonder you seem confused. Yeshua describes himself as the "son of man", who will not return until "immediately after the tribulation" (Mt 24:29-30). In the meantime Yeshua sits at the right hand of God, waiting for the LORD to make Yeshua's enemies a footstool for his feet. (Psalms 110).
False prophet Paul. Can you make a thread on that because this thread and forum considers the Bible is valid?
Also nothing you wrote was for or against the topic.
Anyone who thinks that 1 plus 1 plus 1 is equal to 1, as with the Trinity doctrine, which came out of the Nicene Council of 325 A.D., is in need of remedial math. Does the forum refute the Jews, who do not consider the writing of Paul as valid?
I would think the forum might refute the Jews. After all, they didn't accept Christ.
I am thinking that "Christians" refute the RLDS/Mormons and the JWs as sects, and not as true "Christians", does that mean you shouldn't be on this forum. I was also thinking that Yeshua came to present his message to Judah/Jews, and the lost sheep of Israel/Eprhaim, who wouldn't be combined until the end of the age per Ezekiel 36 & 37. According to Hosea 3, Israel will return to the LORD and king David. According to Ezekiel 36 & 37, Israel will be given a new heart and follow king David and live on the land given to Jacob. Do you live on the land given to Jacob, and keep "keep My statutes" (Ez 3724-25). What ever happened to the Messianic Jews? Did they "rapture"?
I didn't say that Jews didn't have a right to be on this forum. You said should they be
refuted?? and I said they should be. They are welcome to stay on this forum.
You don't understand, apparently, that today God's people are now
spiritual Israel and not physical Israel, as the Scriptures show us. They rejected Jesus, so now the priviledge of reigning over the earth with Christ is given to "a nation producing its [the kingdoms'] fruit."
Jesus said: "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent forth to her---how often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks together under her wings! But you people did not want it. Look!
Your house is abandoned to you." (Matthew 23:37,38)
"I say to you, The Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits." (Matthew 21:43)
Peter said to Christians in Asia: "YOU are
a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for a special possession....For you were once not a people, but are now God's people." (I Peter 2:9,10)
(And Hosea was referring to spiritual Israel, not earthly Israel. Spiritual Israel keeps God's statutes, the way no other group does. I don't know anything about Messianic Jews, but I'm sure they didn't "rapture.")