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Jesus is God and Why !

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Matt 19:16-26

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.


This passage actually is teaching the Truth that Jesus is God ! Notice vs 17 As the young man had addressed Jesus as good, and Jesus responded accordingly, why callest thou me good, for none is good but ONE, that One Being God

Now , notice Jesus did not say, none is good but One and that is my Father, but He said that One, Being God !

Now if Jesus by this is not insinuating that He is God, then the alternative is that He was not good, seeing He just said only ONE, not Two, but ONLY ONE is good.

Now, if Jesus was not good, being that He was not the Only One Good God, then His commanding him, the young ruler, in order to be perfect, that he must go sell all his possessions, then give to the poor, and follow Him; Such an commandment exposed that the young man loved his possessions above God, which was a violation of the very first commandment, now if Jesus was not God, then the young mans refusal to obey and follow Jesus, could not be a proper standard to gauge his Love to God !

For there could not have been nothing amiss about not making such a great sacrifice as that Jesus told him, and then following Him if the One speaking was not the One God, who Only was good !

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Look the word worship up in each verse, thats what it means duh. Thats all Im going to do. To worship any other than God is Idolatry !

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Brightfame52 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:16 am [Replying to 1213 in post #470]

Look the word worship up in each verse, thats what it means duh. Thats all Im going to do. To worship any other than God is Idolatry !
I have gone to some effort to explain what the two types of worship are. Shall I repeat myself? The worship that goes to God is one sort of worship.The worship that men give to people high in authority, such as judges, kings, governors, etc., is another. That "worship" is merely showing respect to those individuals. It would not be the same worship that men give to God. Duh.

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Its simple, Im speaking of the worship that belongs only to God.

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Brightfame52 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:02 am [Replying to onewithhim in post #472]

Its simple, Im speaking of the worship that belongs only to God.
Jesus gets "worship" not of God but of honor and respect.

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If He is not God, its Idolatry.

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Brightfame52 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 2:44 pm [Replying to onewithhim in post #474]

If He is not God, its Idolatry.
It is no more idolatry than giving "worship" to people in high positions, like judges and kings, etc. They are just receiving respect from us.

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If you worship any other besides God friend its Idolatry Matt 4 10


Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

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Brightfame52 wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 7:27 am [Replying to onewithhim in post #476]

If you worship any other besides God friend its Idolatry Matt 4 10


Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Did you miss the former discussion of "worship"? There are two types of worship....the worship you give to superior authorities and the worship you give to God. The worship of God is given to Him by those who wish to acknowledge Him as the Most High God, God Almighty. The worship of men in high places is not idolatry but merely giving them respect. Romans chapter 13 says in part:

"(1) Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God... (7) Render to all their dues, to him who calls for the tax, the tax; to him who calls for the tribute, the tribute; to him who calls for fear, such fear; to him who calls for honor, such honor."

Do you understand the point? We, as Christians must give those in high authority positions honor. That is "worship," only less in scope than the honor we give to God as God Almighty.

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onewithhim wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 9:55 am
Brightfame52 wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 7:27 am If you worship any other besides God friend its Idolatry Matt 4 10


Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Did you miss the former discussion of "worship"? There are two types of worship....the worship you give to superior authorities and the worship you give to God. The worship of God is given to Him by those who wish to acknowledge Him as the Most High God, God Almighty. The worship of men in high places is not idolatry but merely giving them respect.
You keep claiming variations of this, but it requires you to split one Greek word into two English words. In both Matthew and Luke, Jesus insists that one προσκυνεῖ God only without qualification. There's no indication that he meant one kind of προσκυνέω and not another. Your mere say-so doesn't seem like enough justification to create a distinction that Jesus himself didn't make. When Jesus commands that you not lie or commit adultery, do you try to create and carve out different meanings of those words that don't apply? If not, why do you do so with προσκυνέω? Are your traditions more important than the very words of Jesus himself?
My pronouns are he, him, and his.

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Jesus is worshipped as God, if He isnt God its Idolatry, simple as that. Luke 4:8

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

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