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How exactly did Jesus resurrection happen❓

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If a world religion claimed that 2000 years ago someone built a time machine, then people would fall over their own feet to constantly ask: "How excactly did this time machine work?"

But now we have in the bible a a main protagonist resurrect from being dead and no one, neither Christian nor Sceptic ever, bothers to ask:
"How exactly did Jesus resurrection happen?"

Marvel fans are known to intensively debate questions like:
"How exactly does Spidermans power of sticking to walls and ceilings work?"

But no one on earth gives a damn about how exactly worked "The Resurrection"!


My first question for debate: Why is that so❓


Now lets first see what "resurrection" is supposed to mean.

First: A resurrected being in the bible is not undead like Count Dracula as a Vampyre, who has no biological bodily functions anymore and is kept undead alive by magic alone.

A truly resurrected being is supposed to have regained live and full biological bodily functions out of the state of being truly dead.
And he is therefore not being kept alive by magic alone, though magic m i g h t have triggered his resurrection.

Everyone agrees that Jesus is supposed to have been "really dead" ! By current medical definition that does mean already brain dead.

This is the state anyone must reach to honestly resurrect.
For we have semi dead people waking up from clinical death all the time and no one is claiming miracle of resurrection for them.

But lets see what naturally happens after brain death:
"Decomposition (of the brain) often occurs within minutes after death, which is quicker than other body tissues, likely because the brain is about 80% water. Rotting starts in normal ambient temperature at about 3 days, and the brain is essentially vaporized within 5-10 years."

Said all that we can begin trying to find out how Jesus resurrection might have happened in detail.

Bible gives a hint by intensively implicating that Jesus resurrection was triggered by magic.

Bible explains that Jesus died sometime P.M. during first day, was dead the whole second day and resurrected on third day before daybreak.
(Lets say he was dead for somewhat 36 hours.)

Now, said all that; What is possible?

Magic, as the Great Joe Quesada stated when he destroyed the Spiderman comic series for the fans, must not be explained.

But what that magic did do can be researched.

Did magic stop Jesus brain and therefore his body too from decomposing, kept it in a somewhat timeless state and make him arise 36 hours later?

Did Jesus naturally decompose and magic made him re-decompose later to let him be able to better resurrect?

And then we have still the problem that Jesus died supposedly on the cross because fatal hurts and woundings to his body caused his heart to stop.

How therefore did his body compensate this fatal wounds, to still be able to resurrect?

I will stop here explaining, starting the debate with the second and main question:


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The Nice Centurion wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:59 pm [Replying to SiNcE_1985 in post #159]
WHAT kept the Followers from recognizing Christ and WHY?
It is clear that Jesus, you know, with all his power and glory, kept them from recognizing them and made himself known to them when he was ready (Luke 24:31).
The SHADY AT BEST post mortem appearances led to warring christian denominations on each others throats until today!
?
Also since people are no longer burned at the stake for asking questions about the risen guy's suspicious behaviour, the number of worldwide christians is sadly sinking.
You can led a horse to the water, but you can't make it stay.
You sure that this is what was planned to be accomplished by them kept Patterson Jesus post moryem narratives ?
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SiNcE_1985 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:21 am
The Nice Centurion wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:59 pm [Replying to SiNcE_1985 in post #159]
WHAT kept the Followers from recognizing Christ and WHY?
It is clear that Jesus, you know, with all his power and glory, kept them from recognizing them and made himself known to them when he was ready (Luke 24:31).
The SHADY AT BEST post mortem appearances led to warring christian denominations on each others throats until today!
?
Also since people are no longer burned at the stake for asking questions about the risen guy's suspicious behaviour, the number of worldwide christians is sadly sinking.
You can led a horse to the water, but you can't make it stay.
You sure that this is what was planned to be accomplished by them kept Patterson Jesus post moryem narratives ?
?
Again and again it comes back to the same thing - one can make a rational argument or one can resort to improbable magic (Jesus did magic so that he wouldn't be recognised or credit the rational explanation - it s an obviously and rather clumsy storytelling device and appears only in one gospel, John having Mary mistake Jesus for the gardener or Cleophas not recognising Jesus even when they were sitting down to lunch together.

As you say, we can lead a horse to water, but the horse has to accept the water is there before it can even decide to drink

The water in what is the case on the evidence of the Bible, not what can be denied so as to prop up the Faith.

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SiNcE_1985 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:21 am
The Nice Centurion wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:59 pm [Replying to SiNcE_1985 in post #159]
WHAT kept the Followers from recognizing Christ and WHY?
It is clear that Jesus, you know, with all his power and glory, kept them from recognizing them and made himself known to them when he was ready (Luke 24:31).
Why is that clear❓

What do you assume that I do know❓

For what reason would Jesus have done that❓
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The Nice Centurion wrote: Why is that clear❓
Reading comprehension makes it clear.
What do you assume that I do know❓
I assumed you had read the narrative that you are critiquing.
For what reason would Jesus have done that❓
I don't know, scripture does not say he did X because of Y.

But nevertheless, he did it.
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I see lots of people debating about how Jesus came back to life or if he even did, but in my opinion, that is beside the point. I believe with my whole heart that the true essence of being a Christian is to JUST believe that he came back to life so that he can show us that death is not the final frontier. You can debate a lot on this matter, but belief is key here. What I mean is that it doesn't matter how he did it but the fact that he did it.
What do you think about this? I would like to see other opinions.

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Sebastyan26 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:51 pm I see lots of people debating about how Jesus came back to life or if he even did,
Not a one in this continuously growing thread dares to debate how Jesus came back to live.

Everyone avoids that like Plague.

I ask myself; WHY ?
Sebastyan26 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:51 pm but in my opinion, that is beside the point. I believe with my whole heart that the true essence of being a Christian is to JUST believe that he came back to life so that he can show us that death is not the final frontier. You can debate a lot on this matter, but belief is key here. What I mean is that it doesn't matter how he did it but the fact that he did it.
What do you think about this? I would like to see other opinions.
But this here topic isnt a Philosophical - Theological one about how best we can grabble out excuses for not researching the Mechanics of The Resurrection.
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Tulipbee wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:57 am [Replying to The Nice Centurion in post #1]

Ah, The Nice Centurion, the detective of divine mysteries! Grab your popcorn, folks, as we embark on the cosmic quest to unravel the enigma of Jesus' resurrection – the greatest mystery since Spiderman's wall-crawling abilities!

Now, our detective here poses a question that could make Marvel fans blush – "How exactly did Jesus' resurrection happen?" Move over, Spiderman, we've got a cosmic hero rising from the divine dead!

Our cosmic detective, armed with skepticism sharper than Thor's hammer, points out the curious lack of curiosity among Earthlings. If someone claimed to build a time machine, the inquisition would make the Spanish version look like a casual chat at a coffee shop. But Jesus rises from the dead, and people are as indifferent as a cat in a sunbeam.

Let's dive into the divine rabbit hole, where the resurrection magic show awaits. Our detective, ever the meticulous thinker, reminds us that a resurrected being isn't a brain-dead zombie; it's a biological marvel. Jesus, brain-dead by medical standards, faces the cosmic challenge of resurrection.

Now, did magic freeze Jesus' body like a cosmic popsicle, preventing decomposition? Or did magic orchestrate a cosmic decomposition and recomposition dance for the grand resurrection finale? Oh, the divine choreography!

And let's not forget the fatal wounds – the cosmic plot twist that even Marvel might envy. How does one resurrect when the script says the heart has hit its final beat? It's a divine soap opera, complete with suspense and a touch of otherworldly drama.

But, dear audience, the cosmic question lingers – how exactly did Jesus' resurrection happen? Was it a divine mic drop, a cosmic sleight of hand, or perhaps the ultimate Marvel crossover event?

The cosmic curtain rises, and the theological stage awaits your thoughts on the divine blockbuster – Jesus: The Resurrection Chronicles! 🍿🌌😄
Yes, that is me! I will gladly accept that title;

" The Nice Centurion, the detective of divine mysteries! "

Now lets see the long and wide wikipedia article about The Resurrection. It has exactly one sentence to tell about details of The Resurrection;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurre ... l_accounts
wikipedia wrote: For the Christian tradition, the bodily resurrection was the restoration to life of a transformed body powered by spirit,[web 3] as described by Paul and the Gospel authors, that led to the establishment of Christianity.
So even there they wont tell me much😖

But I'm not giving up yet🔮❗🏦
“If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. But if you drown a man in a fish pond, he will never have to go hungry again🐟

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"Joseph Smith can't possibly have been a deceiver.
For if he had been, the Angel Moroni never would have taken the risk of enthrusting him with the Golden Plates❗"

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