The supergenious that marks scripture

[tretothee350z]

The greatest evidence, for me at least, that the bible is inspired by the one true God is the profound unified theme that marks the scriptures.

The Bible is a collection of 66 books. It was written by different authors, in different places, on different continents, over a 1600 year period. In light of all these things, there is an impossibility that each and every book which has come to be called "the canon", would be so unified in theme, teaching, and structure. And further the Predictive prophecy clearly made in advance of its unquestioned fulfillment. The logical argument is as follows:

1. If the content of the Bible is characterized by a united simplicity and
inexhaustibility that is beyond mere human production, then the content of the
Bible is of divine origin.

2. The content of the Bible is characterized by a united simplicity and
inexhaustibility that is beyond mere human production.

3. Therefore the content of the Bible is of divine origin.

Even skeptics have admitted the uniqueness of the biblical message. Rousseau, the prominent eighteenth century thinker to whom such philosophers as Kant and Hegel acknowledged their debt said: "I will confess to you farther that the majesty of the Scriptures strikes me with admiration, as the purity of the Gospel has its influence on my heart. Peruse the works of our philosophers, with all their pomp of diction, how mean, how contemptible are they, compared with the Scriptures! Is it possible that a book, at once so simple and sublime, should be merely the work of man?"

The great simplicity associated with a length, and breadth, and depth of the
meaning in scripture far transcends the range and capacity of the most inspired genius.

If one is going to read the bible properly, he should look for foreshadows of Christ in every line of the old testament. The animals slain to cover the nakedness of our parents: That was Christ, slain to cover our shame and guilt. Moses, leading the Israelite people out of slavery to the Egyptian people: That was Christ leading his people out of slavery and bondage to s sin, and this fallen world. Abraham, ready to Sacrifice his Son Isaac on Mt. Horeb (the same mountain that Christ was crucified on), when God caused a lamb to get caught in the thicket as a substitute, that was Christ.

The extent to these foreshadows of the messiah are by no means exhaustive. hundreds, and hundreds mark the pages of biblical text, each story revealing something about the savior to come when read between the lines. This is not a farfetched position as even Jesus himself spoke in parables, and figurative language. The parables were told to reflect a higher spiritual reality deeper than the parables themselves. And for those with "eyes to see" it was revealed that the King in Jesus parables was actually Jesus himself.

The backdrop of scripture also has a common theme. It can be summarized depending on which theological point you wish to emphasize, but an example is as follows: The whole of redemptive history can be summarized as the Father seeking a bride for His son, separated into four stages... Creation, fall, redemption, and restoration.

In conclusion, it is this unity that makes scripture beyond human ability to improvise. The attempt of theology is to understand this unity, and what it is saying. It is a phenomenon on the Bible that is absolutely unique among the scriptures of the major world religions. I am referring to the amazing way that the Old Testament predicts and foreshadows the coming of the Messiah and how these predictions are fulfilled by Jesus of Nazareth. And this is what gives scripture its defense when properly understood. Jonathan Edwards called it the ineffable, distinguishing, evidential excellency in the Bible. Call it an objective divine glory in the Bible, but Gods fingerprint (as it were) truly is shown to us in the unified theme which points to the Christ, Gods Son, and when this reality is seen, the Bibles message is self authenticating. It needs no outside defense.

[Tired of the Nonsense]

God is just, he displays this attribute in sinners. God is holy. He must satisfy his justice, when injustice is committed against Him. But God is also love.

God is just and loving? Let's consider that statement for a moment. According to 1 Sam.6:19, God once killed exactly fifty thousand and seventy men because someone dared to look inside the Ark of the Covenant. That's a pretty serious hissy fit. Some might even label it a bit of an over reaction. According to the book of Job God killed Job's entire family just to prove a point to Satan. Just and loving? Seriously? These sorts of actions are neither just nor are they loving. They are the very definition of arbitrary and callous acts committed by a psychopath. Fortunately for me however, I have been entirely protected from God's psychotic and arbitrary rages my entire life through the simple fact of not supposing that "He" ever existed to begin with.

[McCulloch]

The greatest evidence, for me at least, that the bible is inspired by the one true God is the profound unified theme that marks the scriptures.

A committee of men chose from among the vast number of religious texts available, a collection that they want to represent their religion. Is it then an astounding fact that there ends up being a thematic similarity to these writings?

The Bible is a collection of 66 books. It was written by different authors, in different places, on different continents, over a 1600 year period.

There is a bit of hyperbole here. Yes, the Bible was written on different continents, however you could put it a different way. It was all written in the region of the eastern Mediterranean Sea.

And further the Predictive prophecy clearly made in advance of its unquestioned fulfillment.

Oh, please provide three (no more) of the best examples of predictive prophecy in the Bible.

Your argument seems to have been plagiarized from All Scripture is Breathed Out by God by Charles C. Pugh III, December 2, 2009,

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[orthodox skeptic]

With all due respect for an erudite post, I employ a device that I've used before which, while not as learned in composition serves the purpose: If I told you that I read a book and believed it, though anonymously written, claiming Winston Churchill to have been a Nazi spy, you'd laugh in my face. Yet, you are perfectly in line to accept that a document, ascribed to an unknown number of anonymous authors, ravaged by scores of religious scholars and theologians, is unquestioned truth? KEEP the FAITH!!

The greatest evidence, for me at least, that the bible is inspired by the one true God is the profound unified theme that marks the scriptures.

The Bible is a collection of 66 books. It was written by different authors, in different places, on different continents, over a 1600 year period. In light of all these things, there is an impossibility that each and every book which has come to be called "the canon", would be so unified in theme, teaching, and structure. And further the Predictive prophecy clearly made in advance of its unquestioned fulfillment. The logical argument is as follows:

1. If the content of the Bible is characterized by a united simplicity and
inexhaustibility that is beyond mere human production, then the content of the
Bible is of divine origin.

2. The content of the Bible is characterized by a united simplicity and
inexhaustibility that is beyond mere human production.

3. Therefore the content of the Bible is of divine origin.

Even skeptics have admitted the uniqueness of the biblical message. Rousseau, the prominent eighteenth century thinker to whom such philosophers as Kant and Hegel acknowledged their debt said: "I will confess to you farther that the majesty of the Scriptures strikes me with admiration, as the purity of the Gospel has its influence on my heart. Peruse the works of our philosophers, with all their pomp of diction, how mean, how contemptible are they, compared with the Scriptures! Is it possible that a book, at once so simple and sublime, should be merely the work of man?"

The great simplicity associated with a length, and breadth, and depth of the
meaning in scripture far transcends the range and capacity of the most inspired genius.

If one is going to read the bible properly, he should look for foreshadows of Christ in every line of the old testament. The animals slain to cover the nakedness of our parents: That was Christ, slain to cover our shame and guilt. Moses, leading the Israelite people out of slavery to the Egyptian people: That was Christ leading his people out of slavery and bondage to s sin, and this fallen world. Abraham, ready to Sacrifice his Son Isaac on Mt. Horeb (the same mountain that Christ was crucified on), when God caused a lamb to get caught in the thicket as a substitute, that was Christ.

The extent to these foreshadows of the messiah are by no means exhaustive. hundreds, and hundreds mark the pages of biblical text, each story revealing something about the savior to come when read between the lines. This is not a farfetched position as even Jesus himself spoke in parables, and figurative language. The parables were told to reflect a higher spiritual reality deeper than the parables themselves. And for those with "eyes to see" it was revealed that the King in Jesus parables was actually Jesus himself.

The backdrop of scripture also has a common theme. It can be summarized depending on which theological point you wish to emphasize, but an example is as follows: The whole of redemptive history can be summarized as the Father seeking a bride for His son, separated into four stages... Creation, fall, redemption, and restoration.

In conclusion, it is this unity that makes scripture beyond human ability to improvise. The attempt of theology is to understand this unity, and what it is saying. It is a phenomenon on the Bible that is absolutely unique among the scriptures of the major world religions. I am referring to the amazing way that the Old Testament predicts and foreshadows the coming of the Messiah and how these predictions are fulfilled by Jesus of Nazareth. And this is what gives scripture its defense when properly understood. Jonathan Edwards called it the ineffable, distinguishing, evidential excellency in the Bible. Call it an objective divine glory in the Bible, but Gods fingerprint (as it were) truly is shown to us in the unified theme which points to the Christ, Gods Son, and when this reality is seen, the Bibles message is self authenticating. It needs no outside defense.

[kayky]

Tretothee:
The greatest evidence, for me at least, that the bible is inspired by the one true God is the profound unified theme that marks the scriptures.

The Bible is a collection of 66 books. It was written by different authors, in different places, on different continents, over a 1600 year period. HuIn light of all these things, there is an impossibility that each and every book which has come to be called "the canon", would be so unified in theme, teaching, and structure. And further the Predictive prophecy clearly made in advance of its unquestioned fulfillment. The logical argument is as follows:

KAYKY:

Considering that most of the Bible was written by people from the same culture, it is amazing to me how unified it is. It is chuck full of contradictions as well.

Tretothee:

1. If the content of the Bible is characterized by a united simplicity and
inexhaustibility that is beyond mere human production, then tPhe content of the
Bible is of divine origin.

2. The content of the Bible is characterized by a united simplicity and
inexhaustibility that is beyond mere human prodOuction.

3. Therefore the content of the Bible is of divine origin.

KAYKY:

Let's pretend for a moment that your original premise is true (it isn't). If the Bible couldn't have been written by humans, it does not naturally follow that it was written by some supernatural divine being. Perhaps it is a relic of some ancient now extinct race. Perhaps it was delivered by extraterrestrials. In fact, it is quite obvious that the Bible was written by mere men.

Tretothee:

Even skeptics have admitted the uniqueness of the biblical message. Rousseau, the prominent eighteenth century thinker to whom such philosophers as Kant and Hegel acknowledged their debt said: "I will confess to you farther that the majesty of the Scriptures strikes me with admiration, as the purity of the Gospel has its influence on my heart. Peruse the works of our philosophers, with all their pomp of diction, how mean, how contemptible are they, compared with the Scriptures! Is it possible that a book, at once so simple and sublime, should be merely the work of man?"

KAYKY:

This is meaningless.

Tretothee:

The great simplicity associated with a length, and breadth, and depth of the
meaning in scripture far transcends the range and capacity of the most inspired genius.


KAYKY:

I just don't see it. While parts of the Bible are beautifully poetic, other parts are quite ordinary. I've read better.

Tretothee:

If one is going to read the bible properly, he should look for foreshadows of Christ in every line of the old testament. The animals slain to cover the nakedness of our parents: That was Christ, slain to cover our shame and guilt. Moses, leading the Israelite people out of slavery to the Egyptian people: That was Christ leading his people out of slavery and bondage to s sin, and this fallen world. Abraham, ready to Sacrifice his Son Isaac on Mt. Horeb (the same mountain that Christ was crucified on), when God caused a lamb to get caught in the thicket as a substitute, that was Christ.

The extent to these foreshadows of the messiah are by no means exhaustive. hundreds, and hundreds mark the pages of biblical text, each story revealing something about the savior to come when read between the lines. This is not a farfetched position as even Jesus himself spoke in parables, and figurative language. The parables were told to reflect a higher spiritual reality deeper than the parables themselves. And for those with "eyes to see" it was revealed that the King in Jesus parables was actually Jesus himself.


KAYKY:

That's because the Gospel writers interpreted the life of Christ in light of these prophesies. It has nothing to do with actual fulfilled prophecy.

Tretothee:

The backdrop of scripture also has a common theme. It can be summarized depending on which theological point you wish to emphasize, but an example is as follows: The whole of redemptive history can be summarized as the Father seeking a bride for His son, separated into four stages... Creation, fall, redemption, and restoration.

In conclusion, it is this unity that makes scripture beyond human ability to improvise. The attempt of theology is to understand this unity, and what it is saying. It is a phenomenon on the Bible that is absolutely unique among the scriptures of the major world religions. I am referring to the amazing way that the Old Testament predicts and foreshadows the coming of the Messiah and how these predictions are fulfilled by Jesus of Nazareth. And this is what gives scripture its defense when properly understood. Jonathan Edwards called it the ineffable, distinguishing, evidential excellency in the Bible. Call it an objective divine glory in the Bible, but Gods fingerprint (as it were) truly is shown to us in the unified theme which points to the Christ, Gods Son, and when this reality is seen, the Bibles message is self authenticating. It needs no outside

KAYKY:

There is nothing in the Bible that is beyond human abilities. Have you even read the writings of other religions? You might be surprised by how profound some of them are.

[JoeyKnothead]

The Bible is of divine origin?

Then why the heck do so many folks hafta go from hotel to hotel puttin' 'em in the drawers?

Is God's poofer broke?

[ThatGirlAgain]

The Bible is of divine origin?

Then why the heck do so many folks hafta go from hotel to hotel puttin' 'em in the drawers?

Is God's poofer broke?

Did you ever actually see anyone put those Bibles in those drawers?

[JoeyKnothead]

The Bible is of divine origin?

Then why the heck do so many folks hafta go from hotel to hotel puttin' 'em in the drawers?

Is God's poofer broke?

Did you ever actually see anyone put those Bibles in those drawers?

[The Nice Centurion]

[Replying to tretothee350z in post #1]
When I am reading an OP like this, I instantly ask myself:
How far can cognitive dissonance go?

Biblical scripture is not that great at all!
Lets start with the brainwashed hogwash of seeing "The Bible" as a compact coherent standalone work. It isnt!
(The Book of Mormon, for that matter, IS!)

MIxed mythologys cooked together by church fathers still remain the same potpourry!

This is worthy for debate. But first: Here is the most actual article from Richard Carrier about reliability of especially the four canonical gospels and their supposed authors, which were many and not just the Fantastic Four.
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17258

[TRANSPONDER]

Yes, we get a lot of fulsome admiration for the Bible even taken as two books The Jews revere their scripture and dismiss the NT, even if they admit that it is well written. There are other holy Books that compare.Indeed Muslims praise the language of the Quran so highly that it becomes apologetics evidence - 'Nobody but God could have written that'. Such cannot be said of the Bible.A bunch of humans certainly could have written the various contributions to the anthology called 'The Bible' and considering the faults and contradictions, various humans did.