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No man knows who the Son is, but the Father.

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Jesus said in Luke 10:22
All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father”

The reason many debate, argue, and don’t understand the identity of Jesus is because the Father has to reveal this mystery to you. So if no man knows who the Son is, why take a man’s word for it?

Truth is both the Father and the Son agree on the identity of Jesus. Here is the Truth….

Matthew 16:15-17
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15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.”

So Jesus (the Son of God) agrees with the Father that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God”

The testimony of God is greater than the testimony of men. Peace and God bless

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There are many mysteries, parables, similitudes, and deep sayings found in God’s written words, and the identity of the Son of God is one of those mysteries.

But in order for any man to recieve or understand any of the mysteries of the Kingdom of God, it must be revealed to man by way of the Holy Spirit.

It is written in 1 Corinthians 2:11
“the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.”

This is why it so important for believers in Christ to seek understanding from God alone by faith.

James 1:5-6
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5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

Peace

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Stewardofthemystery wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:49 am There are many mysteries, parables, similitudes, and deep sayings found in God’s written words, and the identity of the Son of God is one of those mysteries.

But in order for any man to recieve or understand any of the mysteries of the Kingdom of God, it must be revealed to man by way of the Holy Spirit.

It is written in 1 Corinthians 2:11
“the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.”

This is why it so important for believers in Christ to seek understanding from God alone by faith.

James 1:5-6
King James Version
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

Peace
I think all "mysteries" have been revealed since Jesus walked the earth. God doesn't want anyone to be confused by a mystery. He had the Bible written to dispell any mysterious teaching or thoughts. He wants us to know Him and also His Son, Jesus Christ. It is clear in the Scriptures who God is and who Jesus is.

The trinity teaching confuses people. That is said to be a mystery. It is not part of the truth about God.

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onewithhim wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 12:43 pm
Stewardofthemystery wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:49 am There are many mysteries, parables, similitudes, and deep sayings found in God’s written words, and the identity of the Son of God is one of those mysteries.

But in order for any man to recieve or understand any of the mysteries of the Kingdom of God, it must be revealed to man by way of the Holy Spirit.

It is written in 1 Corinthians 2:11
“the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.”

This is why it so important for believers in Christ to seek understanding from God alone by faith.

James 1:5-6
King James Version
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

Peace
I think all "mysteries" have been revealed since Jesus walked the earth. God doesn't want anyone to be confused by a mystery. He had the Bible written to dispell any mysterious teaching or thoughts. He wants us to know Him and also His Son, Jesus Christ. It is clear in the Scriptures who God is and who Jesus is.

The trinity teaching confuses people. That is said to be a mystery. It is not part of the truth about God.
The many mysteries of the Kingdom of God are revealed only to those whom God has chosen to reveal them to by His Holy Spirit. But the natural man/carnally minded man will not be able to receive/ understand/ or comprehend them because he does have the Holy Spirit or the mind of Christ.

A man can receive nothing except it be given to him by God.-John 3:27

To some it is given, to others it is not given.

Mark 4:11-12
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11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.”

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Stewardofthemystery wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 3:36 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 12:43 pm
Stewardofthemystery wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:49 am There are many mysteries, parables, similitudes, and deep sayings found in God’s written words, and the identity of the Son of God is one of those mysteries.

But in order for any man to recieve or understand any of the mysteries of the Kingdom of God, it must be revealed to man by way of the Holy Spirit.

It is written in 1 Corinthians 2:11
“the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.”

This is why it so important for believers in Christ to seek understanding from God alone by faith.

James 1:5-6
King James Version
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

Peace
I think all "mysteries" have been revealed since Jesus walked the earth. God doesn't want anyone to be confused by a mystery. He had the Bible written to dispell any mysterious teaching or thoughts. He wants us to know Him and also His Son, Jesus Christ. It is clear in the Scriptures who God is and who Jesus is.

The trinity teaching confuses people. That is said to be a mystery. It is not part of the truth about God.
The many mysteries of the Kingdom of God are revealed only to those whom God has chosen to reveal them to by His Holy Spirit. But the natural man/carnally minded man will not be able to receive/ understand/ or comprehend them because he does have the Holy Spirit or the mind of Christ.

A man can receive nothing except it be given to him by God.-John 3:27

To some it is given, to others it is not given.

Mark 4:11-12
King James Version
11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.”
That is true....there are people who will not understand the truth about God and Christ because they prefer to be carnally-minded. God does not draw people like that.

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All men are firstborn with a sin nature and with a carnal mind, this is what it means to be born of the “flesh” and to be a “natural man.”

In order for a man to recieve and understand the many mysteries found in God’s written words, he must be born again of the Holy Spirit and be given a new heart and mind. Without the Holy Spirit the natural man CANNOT understand the things of the Spirit of God because of the spirit that is in him is at enmity with God.

1 Corinthians 2:10-16
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10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.“

Except a man be born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God. Peace

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Stewardofthemystery wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:48 am All men are firstborn with a sin nature and with a carnal mind, this is what it means to be born of the “flesh” and to be a “natural man.”

In order for a man to recieve and understand the many mysteries found in God’s written words, he must be born again of the Holy Spirit and be given a new heart and mind. Without the Holy Spirit the natural man CANNOT understand the things of the Spirit of God because of the spirit that is in him is at enmity with God.

1 Corinthians 2:10-16
King James Version
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.“

Except a man be born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God. Peace
There are no "mysteries" now except when the Great Tribulation will start. No one knows that, whether they are anointed with Spirit or not. The big mystery before Jesus came was "who will the Messiah be"? We know that now, as well as many things that the first century Christians did not. Today there are two groups of Christians, the anointed ones who must be born-again, and the Christians who have an earthly hope and are not anointed. So not every Christian needs to be anointed (for heavenly life). Most Christians now are the ones with an earthly hope.

The Scriptures talk of a limited number of Christians that will reign with Christ in heaven. These are the born-again ones who have been anointed by the Holy Spirit. If you don't want to believe that they are of 144,000 then fine....it stands, anyway, that they are a smaller group. The majority of Christians will remain on Earth and enjoy paradise on earth forever, under the guidance of Christ and the anointed group in heaven.

Jesus said to his disciples who would be born-again: "Have no fear, little flock, because your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom." (Luke 12:32) And: "I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepard." (John 10:16) So just because some were of the "little flock" that would be in heaven, and there were "other sheep," or, those who would remain on Earth, that didn't mean that they were not all of the same flock of all of Christ's sheep. One big flock, but some who had a ruling assignment. Those would guide the flock of the Christians on Earth to make the earth a paradise once again. The earth is the Kingdom's "courtyard," if you will. All part of the Kingdom.

When it was said that someone must be born-again to "see the Kingdom of God," that was referring to the ruling seat of the Kingdom which is in heaven.

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onewithhim wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:32 am
Stewardofthemystery wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:48 am All men are firstborn with a sin nature and with a carnal mind, this is what it means to be born of the “flesh” and to be a “natural man.”

In order for a man to recieve and understand the many mysteries found in God’s written words, he must be born again of the Holy Spirit and be given a new heart and mind. Without the Holy Spirit the natural man CANNOT understand the things of the Spirit of God because of the spirit that is in him is at enmity with God.

1 Corinthians 2:10-16
King James Version
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.“

Except a man be born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God. Peace
There are no "mysteries" now except when the Great Tribulation will start. No one knows that, whether they are anointed with Spirit or not. The big mystery before Jesus came was "who will the Messiah be"? We know that now, as well as many things that the first century Christians did not. Today there are two groups of Christians, the anointed ones who must be born-again, and the Christians who have an earthly hope and are not anointed. So not every Christian needs to be anointed (for heavenly life). Most Christians now are the ones with an earthly hope.

The Scriptures talk of a limited number of Christians that will reign with Christ in heaven. These are the born-again ones who have been anointed by the Holy Spirit. If you don't want to believe that they are of 144,000 then fine....it stands, anyway, that they are a smaller group. The majority of Christians will remain on Earth and enjoy paradise on earth forever, under the guidance of Christ and the anointed group in heaven.

Jesus said to his disciples who would be born-again: "Have no fear, little flock, because your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom." (Luke 12:32) And: "I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepard." (John 10:16) So just because some were of the "little flock" that would be in heaven, and there were "other sheep," or, those who would remain on Earth, that didn't mean that they were not all of the same flock of all of Christ's sheep. One big flock, but some who had a ruling assignment. Those would guide the flock of the Christians on Earth to make the earth a paradise once again. The earth is the Kingdom's "courtyard," if you will. All part of the Kingdom.

When it was said that someone must be born-again to "see the Kingdom of God," that was referring to the ruling seat of the Kingdom which is in heaven.
There are plenty of mysteries found in God’s words that many people do not understand, and that is because it has to be revealed to them by God’s Spirit.

The symbolic language found in the book of Revelation is a good example. The mark of the man/beast is a good example of a mystery that many still do not understand, even if it we’re told to them by someone who God had revealed this to by His Spirit.

No carnally minded man will receive His testimony.

John 3:32
And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony

John 3:8-12
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8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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