Transparency and credibility of factual facts

[somo]

For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matthew 5:18
The Prophet Jesus peace be upon him,
came to complete the law of the ancient prophets
Without decrease or increase
The remaining authentic verses in the Old Testament cannot be omitted

Why such variance in viewpoints? To begin with, different theological camps disagree on which books should be included in the Bible. One camp’s apocrypha is another’s scripture. Secondly, even among those books that have been canonized, the many variant source texts lack uniformity. This lack of uniformity is so ubiquitous that The Interpreter’s Dictionary of the Bible states, “It is safe to say that there is not one sentence in the NT in which the MS [manuscript] tradition is wholly uniform.”[2]

Not one sentence? We can’t trust a single sentence of the Bible? Hard to believe.
Maybe

The fact is that there are over 5700 Greek manuscripts of all or part of the New Testament.[3] Furthermore, “no two of these manuscripts are exactly alike in all their particulars…. And some of these differences are significant.”[4] Factor in roughly ten thousand manuscripts of the Latin Vulgate, add the many other ancient variants (i.e., Syriac, Coptic, Armenian, Georgian, Ethiopic, Nubian, Gothic, Slavonic), and what do we have?
A lot of manuscripts

A lot of manuscripts that fail to correspond in places and not infrequently contradict one another. Scholars estimate the number of manuscript variants in the hundreds of thousands, some estimating as high as 400,000.[5] In Bart D. Ehrman’s now famous words, “Possibly it is easiest to put the matter in comparative terms: there are more differences in our manuscripts than there are words in the New Testament.”[6]
How did this happen?

Poor record keeping. Dishonesty. Incompetence. Doctrinal prejudice. Take your pick.

None of the original manuscripts have survived from the early Christian period.[7]/[8] The most ancient complete manuscripts (Vatican MS. No. 1209 and the Sinaitic Syriac Codex) date from the fourth century, three hundred years after Jesus’ ministry. But the originals? Lost. And the copies of the originals? Also lost. Our most ancient manuscripts, in other words, are copies of the copies of the copies of nobody-knows-just-how-many copies of the originals.
No wonder they differ

In the best of hands, copying errors would be no surprise. However, New Testament manuscripts were not in the best of hands. During the period of Christian origins, scribes were untrained, unreliable, incompetent, and in some cases illiterate.[9] Those who were visually impaired could have made errors with look-alike letters and words, while those who were hearing-impaired may have erred in recording scripture as it was read aloud. Frequently scribes were overworked, and hence inclined to the errors that accompany fatigue.

In the words of Metzger and Ehrman, “Since most, if not all, of them [the scribes] would have been amateurs in the art of copying, a relatively large number of mistakes no doubt crept into their texts as they reproduced them.”[10] Worse yet, some scribes allowed doctrinal prejudice to influence their transmission of scripture.[11] As Ehrman states, “The scribes who copied the texts changed them.”[12] More specifically, “The number of deliberate alterations made in the interest of doctrine is difficult to assess.”[13] And even more specifically, “In the technical parlance of textual criticism—which I retain for its significant ironies—these scribes ‘corrupted’ their texts for theological reasons.”[14]

Errors were introduced in the form of additions, deletions, substitutions and modifications, most commonly of words or lines, but occasionally of entire verses.[15] [16] In fact, “numerous changes and accretions came into the text,”[17] with the result that “all known witnesses of the New Testament are to a greater or lesser extent mixed texts, and even several of the earliest manuscripts are not free from egregious errors.”[18]

In Misquoting Jesus, Ehrman presents persuasive evidence that the story of the woman taken in adultery (John 7:53-8:12) and the last twelve verses of Mark were not in the original gospels, but added by later scribes.[19] Furthermore, these examples “represent just two out of thousands of places in which the manuscripts of the New Testament came to be changed by scribes.”[20]

In fact, entire books of the Bible were forged.[21] This doesn’t mean their content is necessarily wrong, but it certainly doesn’t mean it’s right. So which books were forged? Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus, 1 and 2 Peter, and Jude—a whopping nine of the twenty-seven New Testament books and epistles—are to one degree or another suspect.[22]
Forged books? In the Bible?

Why are we not surprised? After all, even the gospel authors are unknown. In fact, they’re anonymous.[23] Biblical scholars rarely, if ever, ascribe gospel authorship to Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John. As Ehrman tells us, “Most scholars today have abandoned these identifications, and recognize that the books were written by otherwise unknown but relatively well-educated Greek-speaking (and writing) Christians during the second half of the first century.”[24] Graham Stanton affirms, “The gospels, unlike most Graeco-Roman writings, are anonymous. The familiar headings which give the name of an author (‘The Gospel according to …’) were not part of the original manuscripts, for they were added only early in the second century.”[25]

So what, if anything, did Jesus’ disciples have to do with authoring the gospels? Little or nothing, so far as we know. But we have no reason to believe they authored any of the books of the Bible. To begin with, let us remember Mark was a secretary to Peter, and Luke a companion to Paul. The verses of Luke 6:14-16 and Matthew 10:2-4 catalogue the twelve disciples, and although these lists differ over two names, Mark and Luke don’t make either list. So only Matthew and John were true disciples. But all the same, modern scholars pretty much disqualify them as authors anyway.
Why?

Good question. John being the more famous of the two, why should we disqualify him from having authored the Gospel of “John”?
Umm … because he was dead?

Multiple sources acknowledge there is no evidence, other than questionable testimonies of second century authors, to suggest that the disciple John was the author of the Gospel of “John.”[26] [27] Perhaps the most convincing refutation is that the disciple John is believed to have died in or around 98 CE.[28] However, the Gospel of John was written circa 110 CE.[29] So whoever Luke (Paul’s companion), Mark (Peter’s secretary), and John (the unknown, but certainly not the long-dead one) were, we have no reason to believe any of the gospels were authored by Jesus’ disciples


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[Replying to nameless in post #78]
Are you confused... I am here to support and help everybody...

No, I am not "confused" at all. That is quite the ego/vanity that you are displaying. If I don't see things as you do I must be 'confused'? Really?
Such an attitude precludes a rational, back and forth discussion, when I know that whatever I say is just you waiting to speak.
I think that if you understood The First Law of Soul Dynamics; "For every Perspective, there is an equal and opposite Perspective!", you could learn from Truth that you cannot perceive from your Perspective.

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[Replying to nameless in post #81]

Namaskaram nameless

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Let us inspire our brothers and sisters...



I am here to support and help everybody Do you really understand this...

But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

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[Replying to nameless in post #81]

Let us inspire our brothers and sisters...

Why did you send me this about 'reincarnation'? Reincarnation has nothing to do with me.
And the video? Especially after I respectfully asked you to refrain from sending me videos?
And who's somo?
And I don't need "support and help", but thank you anyway.
See you around.
Or not;
I think that I am on borrowed time as I must have offended the forum God and am about to be banned.
At least I know that I'm in good company.

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[Replying to nameless in post #83]

Namaskaram nameless

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Let us inspire our brothers and sisters Keep up the good work...

But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

I would like to talk with somo about this, so...



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[somo]

أمريكي متخصص في التاريخ يغير قناعاته بعدما قرأ القرآن | محمد علي



نصرانية أرثدوكسية تسأل عن العنف والقتل في القرآن | محمد علي

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[Replying to somo in post #85]

Namaskaram somo

https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/wisdom/art ... ar-meaning

Let us inspire our brothers and sisters Keep up the good work...

But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

I would like to talk with you about this, so...



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[somo]

He implements an agenda assigned by the church with a handful of false suspicions against Islam. This is their job


You are just ignorant mercenaries taking salaries
It's your job!
If you don't distort the image of Islam, they will fire you and you will not get a salary.


You do not know the origins of Islam, nor the reason for the revelation of the verses, nor even the true history, nor the original language of the Qur’an. “And you're not a scholar of comparative religion either.”


Learn and study Islam from its original sources in specialized Islamic centers, first of all,
instead of fighting Islam and casting cheap ecclesiastical suspicions prepared in advance to mislead people and keep them away from the truth.


you ignorant person
People laugh at your lies and ignorance




their families, daughters and sons convert to Islam every day

God says in the Qur’an

9:32 They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.


Abridged Explanation of the Quran
The disbelievers from all the various religious groups who disbelieve by making up wrong beliefs and rejecting Muhammad ( peace and blessings be upon him ), wish to eradicate Islam.
So they undermine the clear proofs establishing that there is only one God and that His Messenger has brought the truth.
However, Allah will not allow anything to stop His sacred path being perfected and being made clear.
He will raise His Religion above everything else, even if the disbelievers hate that, and if Allah wills something, others are powerless to prevent it.



The reasons for their fight against Islam



See what they teach them in churches








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Every prophet performed miracles at the command of God (the Father) in his time for his people , and the time of the miracle ended

The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, had miracles in his time also

But

the great miracle of the Prophet that has been going on for 1400 years (the Qur’an), which contains scientific miracles and whose veracity has been scientifically proven in the modern era

It is true that the Qur’an is not entirely a scientific book, but it contains clear scientific clues


Therefore, many people convert to Islam who search for material evidence

Why did these 5 Scientists Finally Accept Islam

[otseng]

you ignorant person
People laugh at your lies and ignorance

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[Replying to somo in post #87]

Namaskaram somo

https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/wisdom/art ... ar-meaning

Let us inspire our brothers and sisters Keep up the good work...

But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

We have a lot to talk about...







Your friend forever

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[somo]

Some polemicists among Christians, having seen the extent of conversions from Christianity to Islam, took up the idea of propagating false conversions in the opposite direction. It is not a question here of denying this reality, but simply of exposing the false conversion stories circulating on the internet.
So, in my opinion this “testimony” should be classified under the heading “people posing as ex-Muslims”.

There are so many on the internet,

they are implementing a program assigned by the Church with a handful of false suspicions against Islam. It's their job

they do not know the origins of Islam, nor the reason for the revelation of the verses, nor even the true history, nor the original language of the Quran. “And they ’re not an expert on comparative religion either.”

they do not know the true biography of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him


Learn and study Islam from its original sources in specialized Islamic centers, first of all,

instead of fighting Islam and casting cheap ecclesiastical suspicions prepared in advance to deceive people and lead them away from the truth.

see here
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Jesus prayed in prostration (Matthew 26:39), like the other prophets (see Nehemiah 8:6 with regard to Ezra and the people, Joshua 5:14 for Joshua, Genesis 17:3 and 24:52 for Abraham, Exodus 34:8 and Numbers 20:6 for Moses and Aaron). Who prays like that, Christians or Muslims?



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