Does God make us sin?

[cfiott]

Does God allow us the freedom to live the life we want or does he manipulate us into doing right or wrong as he deems fit for whatever purposes he might have? The following passage from Exodus strikes me quite negatively:
Ex. 7:2 Thou shalt speak all that I command thee: and Aaron thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh, that he send the children of Israel out of his land.
Ex. 7:3 And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt.
From this it is easy to deduce that Pharaoh failed to give in to God's (Moses's) demands not out of his own free will but because God had conditioned him (hardened his heart) to act that way. God could have decided to soften Pharaoh's heart and the Jews would have left Egypt in peace. Instead God decided to prove how powerful he is by creating a villain, punishing untold numbers of innocent people, and causing all the horrible disasters that followed.
Are we responsible for our sins, or is God "hardening our hearts"?

[gracegreciagracet]

Christian ideas of right and wrong originate in revealed truth, i.e. they stem from what God has taught us through Jesus and the prophets and Apostles. For both the Bible and Tradition, we believe we must obey because the teachings come from God, not because they are wise, will ensure a long life or prosperity.

[Greatest I Am]

God provides a perfect soul and nature. It is to us to trust in these and follow where they lead. To good or to evil. God does need evil here or He would not allow it.

Thank God for evil. His gift to us.

Regards
DL

[Beto]

God does need evil here or He would not allow it.

You would think. But, if "God" needs "Evil", it would follow that he can't blame people for choosing "Evil" over "Good". So why bother at all with what "God" may want or not, like or dislike? It's ultimately irrelevant and pointless.

Under what logic can "God" need "Evil", and then hold Humanity accountable, even in the slightest, for choosing it?

[Greatest I Am]

God does need evil here or He would not allow it.

You would think. But, if "God" needs "Evil", it would follow that he can't blame people for choosing "Evil" over "Good". So why bother at all with what "God" may want or not, like or dislike? It's ultimately irrelevant and pointless.

Under what logic can "God" need "Evil", and then hold Humanity accountable, even in the slightest, for choosing it?

Our morasl sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. We would not want to lose evil because of this.

God does not blame people for following their God given souls and natures.
God does not lose any souls.

Even those we see as evil willl eventually get to heaven.
Even Hitler, who only used the same genocidal tools that God did will be there. Strange but true if God is to maintain His perfect works.

Regards
DL

[Beto]

God does need evil here or He would not allow it.

You would think. But, if "God" needs "Evil", it would follow that he can't blame people for choosing "Evil" over "Good". So why bother at all with what "God" may want or not, like or dislike? It's ultimately irrelevant and pointless.

Under what logic can "God" need "Evil", and then hold Humanity accountable, even in the slightest, for choosing it?

Our morasl sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. We would not want to lose evil because of this.

God does not blame people for following their God given souls and natures.
God does not lose any souls.

Even those we see as evil willl eventually get to heaven.
Even Hitler, who only used the same genocidal tools that God did will be there. Strange but true if God is to maintain His perfect works.

Regards
DL

Again, why waste a single second of our lives thinking about what "God" wants?

[Greatest I Am]

God does need evil here or He would not allow it.

You would think. But, if "God" needs "Evil", it would follow that he can't blame people for choosing "Evil" over "Good". So why bother at all with what "God" may want or not, like or dislike? It's ultimately irrelevant and pointless.

Under what logic can "God" need "Evil", and then hold Humanity accountable, even in the slightest, for choosing it?

Our morasl sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. We would not want to lose evil because of this.

God does not blame people for following their God given souls and natures.
God does not lose any souls.

Even those we see as evil willl eventually get to heaven.
Even Hitler, who only used the same genocidal tools that God did will be there. Strange but true if God is to maintain His perfect works.

Regards
DL

Again, why waste a single second of our lives thinking about what "God" wants?

Because we set the standard for God. He in our image, we in His.

Regards
DL

[Beto]

God does need evil here or He would not allow it.

You would think. But, if "God" needs "Evil", it would follow that he can't blame people for choosing "Evil" over "Good". So why bother at all with what "God" may want or not, like or dislike? It's ultimately irrelevant and pointless.

Under what logic can "God" need "Evil", and then hold Humanity accountable, even in the slightest, for choosing it?

Our morasl sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. We would not want to lose evil because of this.

God does not blame people for following their God given souls and natures.
God does not lose any souls.

Even those we see as evil willl eventually get to heaven.
Even Hitler, who only used the same genocidal tools that God did will be there. Strange but true if God is to maintain His perfect works.

Regards
DL

Again, why waste a single second of our lives thinking about what "God" wants?

Because we set the standard for God. He in our image, we in His.

I don't know what question that is supposed to answer, but it definitely isn't mine.

[Greatest I Am]

God does need evil here or He would not allow it.

You would think. But, if "God" needs "Evil", it would follow that he can't blame people for choosing "Evil" over "Good". So why bother at all with what "God" may want or not, like or dislike? It's ultimately irrelevant and pointless.

Under what logic can "God" need "Evil", and then hold Humanity accountable, even in the slightest, for choosing it?

Our morasl sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. We would not want to lose evil because of this.

God does not blame people for following their God given souls and natures.
God does not lose any souls.

Even those we see as evil willl eventually get to heaven.
Even Hitler, who only used the same genocidal tools that God did will be there. Strange but true if God is to maintain His perfect works.

Regards
DL

Again, why waste a single second of our lives thinking about what "God" wants?

Because we set the standard for God. He in our image, we in His.

I don't know what question that is supposed to answer, but it definitely isn't mine.

God is a philosophy. The word.

We all follow a philosophy of some kind. We all follow a God of some kind.
You cannot help but think of your God as you go through life.

Regards
DL

[Beto]

God does need evil here or He would not allow it.

You would think. But, if "God" needs "Evil", it would follow that he can't blame people for choosing "Evil" over "Good". So why bother at all with what "God" may want or not, like or dislike? It's ultimately irrelevant and pointless.

Under what logic can "God" need "Evil", and then hold Humanity accountable, even in the slightest, for choosing it?

Our morasl sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. We would not want to lose evil because of this.

God does not blame people for following their God given souls and natures.
God does not lose any souls.

Even those we see as evil willl eventually get to heaven.
Even Hitler, who only used the same genocidal tools that God did will be there. Strange but true if God is to maintain His perfect works.

Regards
DL

Again, why waste a single second of our lives thinking about what "God" wants?

Because we set the standard for God. He in our image, we in His.

I don't know what question that is supposed to answer, but it definitely isn't mine.

God is a philosophy. The word.

We all follow a philosophy of some kind. We all follow a God of some kind.
You cannot help but think of your God as you go through life.

1. "God" is a philosophy.

2. We all follow a philosophy.

Only your "peculiar" system of logic will conclude we all follow "God".

[Greatest I Am]

God does need evil here or He would not allow it.

You would think. But, if "God" needs "Evil", it would follow that he can't blame people for choosing "Evil" over "Good". So why bother at all with what "God" may want or not, like or dislike? It's ultimately irrelevant and pointless.

Under what logic can "God" need "Evil", and then hold Humanity accountable, even in the slightest, for choosing it?

Our morasl sense comes from the knowledge of good and evil. We would not want to lose evil because of this.

God does not blame people for following their God given souls and natures.
God does not lose any souls.

Even those we see as evil willl eventually get to heaven.
Even Hitler, who only used the same genocidal tools that God did will be there. Strange but true if God is to maintain His perfect works.

Regards
DL

Again, why waste a single second of our lives thinking about what "God" wants?

Because we set the standard for God. He in our image, we in His.

I don't know what question that is supposed to answer, but it definitely isn't mine.

God is a philosophy. The word.

We all follow a philosophy of some kind. We all follow a God of some kind.
You cannot help but think of your God as you go through life.

1. "God" is a philosophy.

2. We all follow a philosophy.

Only your "peculiar" system of logic will conclude we all follow "God".

A liberal, concervative, democrat or republican, Allah and whatever other name God wants to use. We all follow a God.

Regards
DL