Scientific proof that we are made from the dust

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Scientific proof that we are made from the dust

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Scientific proof that we are made from the dust
by Bro. Eliseo Soriano

They alleged that the creation of Adam is an anti-scientific nonsense, and God did not create Adam from a handful of dust, like the Bible says. To my readers, see how these blatant liars are wrestling the words of the Bible. Their allegation and their pre-conceived idea are not written in the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible can you find a verse that Adam was created by God from a handful of dust. What is written is recorded in Genesis 2:7, which says:

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

While it is true that God created man from the dust of the ground, the phrase handful of dust is absent in the verse! It is conceived it the minds of these perverts. Be that as it may, the information in the Bible is scientific! Granting, without accepting, that there is such a thing as a handful of dust, whose hands will be the measuring hands for the dust that God will use in the formation of Adam? People who cremate the dead have an idea of how much dust will be left of the human body after cremation. I am sure it is not a sack of dust; but very close to a handful " depending on the hands that holds them. And why is it scientific? God made man from the dust; and when his body dies it decomposes and turns again to dust.

(Genesis 3:19) In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

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What are the scientific proof that mans body came from the dust of the ground, as the Bible says? The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earths crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust. This is amazing because what the Bible says perfectly match the scientific composition of a human body.

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The ignorance of these imaginary people in what the Bible says betrays their alleged intelligence and knowledge in science. Of course, the human body is not made up only of dust, but God mixed the dust to water to produce clay.

(Job 10:9) Remember, I beseech thee, that thou hast made me as the clay; and wilt thou bring me into dust again?

(Romans 9:20-21) Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor?

The mixture is clay, understandably contains more water than dust. Who says that the information in the Bible is scientifically nonsense? They are the ones that are nonsensical, and not the Bible!

The exact proportion of the minerals and materials, if maintained, make up a healthy human body (http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/erarc ... 8Size.html). Excesses in these materials will cause disorders and diseases. Excess of aluminum, for example, and iron, will be toxic for the human body. The proportions of the abundance of the 59 elements on the earths crust, is amazingly represented in its presence in the human body. Who says that the Bible is not scientific? These imaginary and anti-scientific people!


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dandlerespawn wrote:
What are the scientific proof that mans body came from the dust of the ground, as the Bible says? The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earths crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust. This is amazing because what the Bible says perfectly match the scientific composition of a human body.

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This is all very creative and interesting.

Norse Mythology tells us that the bible is wrong, Humankind were carved out of the Ash and Elm trees (Ask and Embla) by Odin, the allfather. I'm no expert biologist, but I'm willing to bet the human body is chemically closer to that of a tree than it is the crust of the earth.

But all of that is missing the point, of course we're made out of stuff from the earth, what else would we be made of? Common sense dictates we would have to be made up of elements that were extremely common in our own environment. Your post, while certainly creative, proves absolutely nothing.

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The problem with the term "dust" is that covers lots of different types. For example the most common is made up of entirely human skin cells. Now, that wouldn't make any sense if humans didn't exist before.

Here is the wikipedia definition:
Dust is a general name for minute solid particles with diameters less than 20 thou (500 micrometers). Particles in the atmosphere arise from various sources such as soil dust lifted up by wind, volcanic eruptions, and pollution. Dust in homes, offices, and other human environments consist primarily of human skin cells, but also contain small amounts of plant pollen, human and animal hairs, textile fibers, paper fibers, minerals from outdoor soil, and many other materials which may be found in the local environment.
So using the term "dust" is so vague that it could mean anything. This is another instance of ad-hoc explanations used by apologists.

It makes sense that humans are made of the same elements of their surroundings, given that we must ingest them to live!
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also topsoil isnt 18% it varies greatly from a lot to zero. The article takes advantage of those who are not versed in science. Its a shame.

Lets look at the ACTUAL rations though:


Crust:

Oxygen 46
Silicon 28
Aluminum 8
Iron 5
Calcium 4
Sodium 3
Potassium 3
Magnesium 3

Me:
Oxygen 65
Hydrogen 9
Carbon 18
Nitrogen 3
Sodium, Mangesium, chlorine, potassium, iron, etc <1

There is one element thats even close to in proportion. We have really high amounts of things the earth has very little of as well. The data simply does not fit.
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dandlerespawn wrote:(Genesis 3:19) In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
God made man from the dust; and when his body dies it decomposes and turns again to dust.
There's one other problem that comes to mind when looking at this line. When a human (or any animal for that matter) dies the body starts decomposing. It doesn't decompose into dust - it decomposes into water and carbon dioxide.

Carbon might be the biological equivalent of silicon when it comes to the way in which it bonds, but is in no way the same thing as any form of dust that could have existed before there was life.

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Coyotero wrote:
dandlerespawn wrote:
What are the scientific proof that mans body came from the dust of the ground, as the Bible says? The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earths crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust. This is amazing because what the Bible says perfectly match the scientific composition of a human body.

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This is all very creative and interesting.

Norse Mythology tells us that the bible is wrong, Humankind were carved out of the Ash and Elm trees (Ask and Embla) by Odin, the allfather. I'm no expert biologist, but I'm willing to bet the human body is chemically closer to that of a tree than it is the crust of the earth.

But all of that is missing the point, of course we're made out of stuff from the earth, what else would we be made of? Common sense dictates we would have to be made up of elements that were extremely common in our own environment. Your post, while certainly creative, proves absolutely nothing.

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I am new here..by the way, is there any verse in the bible you can find that we are closely made from a 'tree'...even if you read all the different translation of bible you never find a verse that will support your conclusion... What I was really saying is that the man is made by our God..not in the theory of Darwin w/c is not really true, a greatest lie in science!!! Actually the post is not originally came from me..I just copy and paste it just to share..
It came from our preacher, Bro. Eli Soriano..if you have time just visit the links in my post...sorry if I am not fluent in English, I am only a Filipino...sorry for that..
Next time I'll post a links from youtube from his one of the Debate...He always win by the help of God. Again please visit the links above.

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From the JPS Torah Commentary ...
  • The idea seems to be promordial, subterranean waters would rise to the surface to moisten the arid earth, thereby making it receptive to the growth and survival of vegetation and providing the raw material with the proper consistency for being molded into man. ... The verb "formed" (Heb. va-yitser) is frequently used of the action of a potter (yotser), so that man's creation is portrayed in terms of God molding the clayey soil into shape and then animating it. The image is widespread in the ancient world. In Egyptian art the god Khnum is shown before a potter's wheel busily fashioning man, and in the Wisdom of Amn-em-opert (chap.35), it states that "manis clay and straw, and the god is his builder." Mesopotamian texts, in particular, repeatedly feature this notion. The same is found in the Greek myth about Prometheus, who created a man, and about Hephaestus, who molded the archetypal woman Pandora from the earth.
Genesis was authored by man and reflects the understanding and imagery of its early authors. Therefore?

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dandlerespawn wrote:
I am new here..by the way, is there any verse in the bible you can find that we are closely made from a 'tree'...even if you read all the different translation of bible you never find a verse that will support your conclusion...
Which is why he said Norse Mythology. The point is they are more accurate than the bible. A tree is closer in composition to a person than "dust"

What I was really saying is that the man is made by our God..not in the theory of Darwin w/c is not really true, a greatest lie in science!!!
If this was a lie, it wouldnt be the biggest lie in science but in almost all mankind. This would mean EVERYTHING in biology and ecology would just need to be tossed out the window. This would also mean that christian scientists are lying as well.

Is this honestly a likely scenario, or is it religious fundamentalists simply havent looked at and learned the science?


It came from our preacher, Bro. Eli Soriano..if you have time just visit the links in my post...sorry if I am not fluent in English, I am only a Filipino...sorry for that..
Next time I'll post a links from youtube from his one of the Debate...He always win by the help of God. Again please visit the links above.
Many of my friends and research colleagues are filipino! Welcome!

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why is the second most common thing in the earth's crust, silicon, at such a higher amount, not present in our bodies at all?(well, unless we get breast implants)
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*facepalm*

here is a brief science class for you; the most abundant element in the universe is Hydrogen

it is the fuel of stars, which through fusion make 1)Helium (chemically inert) 2)Carbon, and 3)Oxygen

The most abundant elements in the human body are 1)Hydrogen (along with Oxygen to make H2O) 2)Carbon, the basic element of organic chemistry, (which makes more chemical compounds than all the other elements combined) and 3)Oxygen

Is it truly just a mere coincidence that the most abundant elements in the universe are also abundant in us? Where the hell do you think they came from? I'll give you a hint, the grains of dust came from the same place.

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