Is there a universally condemnable sin?

sin_is_fun · Post by **sin_is_fun** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:03 am

I was wondering whether we have some sin which is condemned by every society and culture in the world.I couldnt think of any.

1.Murder:
No.Mercy killing is legal in many countries,war is permitted,war heroes are hailed.

2.Rape:
No.One major religion allows having sex with slaves.In many cultures carrying away a woman and marrying her is considered as virtue.

3.Theft:

Wars and colonizing is not considered as thefts.Further lenin equated a businessman who makes profit to a thief.

So I am confused.Do we have a universally condemnable sin?

keltzkroz · Post by **keltzkroz** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:36 pm

I don't know if this qualifies, but perhaps the refusal to admit ones own wrongdoing.

sin_is_fun · Post by **sin_is_fun** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:23 pm

keltzkroz wrote:I don't know if this qualifies, but perhaps the refusal to admit ones own wrongdoing.

Many cultures dont accept it as a sin...

jerickson314 · Post by **jerickson314** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:00 pm

Genocide.

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:10 pm

jerickson314 wrote:Genocide.

Except when god authorizes it.

Joshua 6 wrote:So the people shouted, and the priests blew the trumpets. It happened, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, that the people shouted with a great shout, and the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city. They utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, both young and old, and ox, and sheep, and donkey, with the edge of the sword.

Leviticus 26 wrote: You shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall chase ten thousand; and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword.

sin_is_fun · Post by **sin_is_fun** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:16 am

jerickson314 wrote:Genocide.

Germany of 1930's did that legally.

ST88 · Post by **ST88** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:22 am

Maybe... making false oaths?

Corvus · Post by **Corvus** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:08 am

Picking one's nose and then eating it.

Seriously, I'm not sure what is the point of this question. I'm sure it's supposed to expose some critical failing of christianity though what that is exactly, I haven't the foggiest. Actually I do have a vague idea that the real motive behind the question is to point out that if there's no universal condmnable sin how are you supposed to avoid sin. Is that it? Some Christians will probably have a metaphysical solution to that.

sin_is_fun · Post by **sin_is_fun** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:18 pm

ST88 wrote:

Maybe... making false oaths?

Freedom fighters in dictorial regimes still make false oaths and save so many.Is that a sin?Had some jew made some false oath in Hitler's courts is that a sin?

corvus wrote:Picking one's nose and then eating it.

Will American courts punish somebody for doing so?

This question is related to universal law,yes.But certainly not intentionally directed against our beleiving friends.

Corvus · Post by **Corvus** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:56 am

sin_is_fun wrote:
ST88 wrote:

Maybe... making false oaths?
Freedom fighters in dictorial regimes still make false oaths and save so many.Is that a sin?Had some jew made some false oath in Hitler's courts is that a sin?

corvus wrote:Picking one's nose and then eating it.
Will American courts punish somebody for doing so?

No, but they don't normally punish you for lusting after someone either. A sin is not exactly the same as a crime, though I suppose you could argue that, from a human perspective, they have a similar goal.