Is autumn the 5th season?

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Is autumn the 5th season?

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-*Is autumn the 5th season?*-
My philosophy on this, and many people disagree, is that autumn is the 5th season; it marks the transition between summer and winter. It is a time when the cooler nights set in and eventually leads to milder temperate days. Once autumn has come the leaves will eventually change color and bring us to the next season, which would be fall. It would mark the falling of leaves moving into winter.

Thoughts? Do we have really have 5 seasons or are there only 4?

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Seasons are traditionally determined by the sun. Two solstices and two equinoxes divide the year into four. As to which is first and second, the answer is about the same as where is the beginning of a circle.
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naz wrote:-*Is autumn the 5th season?*-
My philosophy on this, and many people disagree, is that autumn is the 5th season; it marks the transition between summer and winter. It is a time when the cooler nights set in and eventually leads to milder temperate days. Once autumn has come the leaves will eventually change color and bring us to the next season, which would be fall. It would mark the falling of leaves moving into winter.

Thoughts? Do we have really have 5 seasons or are there only 4?
...Autumn (Fall), winter, spring, summer. Are you dividing Autumn and Fall into two? If not, how are you coming up with five seasons? :-s

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ChaosBorders wrote:
naz wrote:-*Is autumn the 5th season?*-
My philosophy on this, and many people disagree, is that autumn is the 5th season; it marks the transition between summer and winter. It is a time when the cooler nights set in and eventually leads to milder temperate days. Once autumn has come the leaves will eventually change color and bring us to the next season, which would be fall. It would mark the falling of leaves moving into winter.

Thoughts? Do we have really have 5 seasons or are there only 4?
...Autumn (Fall), winter, spring, summer. Are you dividing Autumn and Fall into two? If not, how are you coming up with five seasons? :-s
Yeah Autumn being the first noticeable Weatherly changes all the way up to where the leaves on plants change colors, which is a shorter period of time than most seasons. Fall would be when the physical changes become apparent that winter is soon to come by the “falling of leaves� from the trees and would end when all the trees are bear and would lead up to the Winter solstice which marks the beginning of winter.

I see it that way for some reason. A double season mixed into one. The transition is a lot different than Winter / Spring / Summer. For it is Summer / Autumn / Fall / Winter.

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Why on Earth is this in the Philosophy subforum? Looks like "Science & Religion" to me, though I don't really see what it has to do with "religion" either.

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naz wrote:
ChaosBorders wrote:
naz wrote:-*Is autumn the 5th season?*-
My philosophy on this, and many people disagree, is that autumn is the 5th season; it marks the transition between summer and winter. It is a time when the cooler nights set in and eventually leads to milder temperate days. Once autumn has come the leaves will eventually change color and bring us to the next season, which would be fall. It would mark the falling of leaves moving into winter.

Thoughts? Do we have really have 5 seasons or are there only 4?
...Autumn (Fall), winter, spring, summer. Are you dividing Autumn and Fall into two? If not, how are you coming up with five seasons? :-s
Yeah Autumn being the first noticeable Weatherly changes all the way up to where the leaves on plants change colors, which is a shorter period of time than most seasons. Fall would be when the physical changes become apparent that winter is soon to come by the “falling of leaves� from the trees and would end when all the trees are bear and would lead up to the Winter solstice which marks the beginning of winter.

I see it that way for some reason. A double season mixed into one. The transition is a lot different than Winter / Spring / Summer. For it is Summer / Autumn / Fall / Winter.
I suppose I could see why you would think that...but I think I'll stick with Autumn/Fall being synonymous. Like it is in the dictionary.

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au·tumn
   [aw-tuhm]
–noun
1
  • the season between summer and winter; fall. In the Northern Hemisphere it is from the September equinox to the December solstice; in the Southern Hemisphere it is from the March equinox to the June solstice.
autumn. Dictionary.com. Dictionary.com Unabridged. Random House, Inc. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/autumn (accessed: September 21, 2010).

fall
   [fawl]
–noun
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  • the season of the year that comes after summer and before winter; autumn.
Fall. Dictionary.com. Dictionary.com Unabridged. Random House, Inc. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fall (accessed: September 21, 2010).


QED. Now the real question is why do the followers of religion never tire of redefining words?
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McCulloch wrote: QED. Now the real question is why do the followers of religion never tire of redefining words?
Same reasons anyone else does it.

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McCulloch wrote: QED. Now the real question is why do the followers of religion never tire of redefining words?
ChaosBorders wrote: Same reasons anyone else does it.
Help me out here. What reasons would that be?
To deliberately obfuscate? Because the current vocabulary is inadequate to the task and either a neologism or an extended meaning is required? Ignorance?
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McCulloch wrote:
McCulloch wrote: QED. Now the real question is why do the followers of religion never tire of redefining words?
ChaosBorders wrote: Same reasons anyone else does it.
Help me out here. What reasons would that be?
To deliberately obfuscate? Because the current vocabulary is inadequate to the task and either a neologism or an extended meaning is required? Ignorance?
All of the above, depending entirely on the person and situation. I do not think there is any evidence that religious people are more prone to redefining words than nonreligious people. If you have such evidence and would care to provide it, I would actually be quite interested.

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