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Spaceman13 · Post by **Spaceman13** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:30 am

Does anyone have "proof" that God/Satan exists? If there is evidence I'd sure like to hear it. This being a debate site we should have proof but I can't think of any.

Shermana · Post by **Shermana** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:48 pm

It hasn't been disproven. So thus, it's not unfounded, especially since it was stated by the guy who mapped out the entire framework of Gravitational Theory which as I said, even Einstein didn't fully understand.

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:50 pm

Shermana wrote:That's right, keep dodging my request for how you believe the Ozone layer came to be to be copied and pasted here.

You mean like how you are dodging my request for you to demonstrate how ozone could form without a sun?

Ragna · Post by **Ragna** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:50 pm

Shermana wrote:It hasn't been disproven. So thus, it's not unfounded, especially since it was stated by the guy who mapped out the entire framework of Gravitational Theory which as I said, even Einstein didn't fully understand.

Things can be unfounded while they're not disproven. An example of this is the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Shermana · Post by **Shermana** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:52 pm

Wyvern wrote:
Shermana wrote:That's right, keep dodging my request for how you believe the Ozone layer came to be to be copied and pasted here.
You mean like how you are dodging my request for you to demonstrate how ozone could form without a sun?

I already mention that there are other sources of UV, such as my belief that life maybe came from a Quasar.

Why won't you post evidence of what you said to be life that could exist that produces OXygen that could withstand 10x the UV? You also said that Algae could live at 10x the UV, where is the proof of this?

Why won't anyone offer an explanation how the Ozone layer came to be?

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:53 pm

Shermana wrote:It hasn't been disproven. So thus, it's not unfounded, especially since it was stated by the guy who mapped out the entire framework of Gravitational Theory which as I said, even Einstein didn't fully understand.

Yep I was right this is nothing but an appeal to authority. What experimental data did Newton use to conclude that god is the source of gravity? Something being unfounded has nothing to do with whether it has been proven or not.

Shermana · Post by **Shermana** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:55 pm

Appeal to authority apparently has plenty of weight when it comes to scientific matters.

Maybe I should bring up my thread on the Higgs Boson ("God particle") and how it seems to be able to time travel and have its own role in electro-magnetic gravitational regulation.

There's a lot to Gravity that Newton knew wasn't quite accountable in basic physical terms, that even Quantum Physicists don't truly understand to this day.

Ragna · Post by **Ragna** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:05 pm

Shermana wrote:Why won't anyone offer an explanation how the Ozone layer came to be?

Since my comment was left the last in the last page and the conversation is running quick, I want to make sure you read this:

Ragna wrote:You can keep dodging the link. Yours strikes me as a puerile and hypocritical attitude, since you conceded that I create a separate thread and you act like if it didn't exist. This can only speak for the maturity on your part, which is highly indicative of the level of debate attainable.

Shermana wrote:Appeal to authority apparently has plenty of weight when it comes to scientific matters.

Actually it is evidence which has weight in science.

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:05 pm

Shermana wrote:
Wyvern wrote:
Shermana wrote:That's right, keep dodging my request for how you believe the Ozone layer came to be to be copied and pasted here.
You mean like how you are dodging my request for you to demonstrate how ozone could form without a sun?
I already mention that there are other sources of UV, such as my belief that life maybe came from a Quasar.
Please show some evidence of life coming from quasars. These other sources of UV can you show where they are and that they had sufficient intensity to produce ozone. I can't recall anyone ever getting a sunburn from lying out at night.

Why won't you post evidence of what you said to be life that could exist that produces OXygen that could withstand 10x the UV? You also said that Algae could live at 10x the UV, where is the proof of this?
Stop putting words in my mouth, you are the one that has said anything about there being 10x UV levels.

http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php ... rradiation

This site gives a good explanation of the effects of and responses to UV radiation by cyanobacteria.

Why won't anyone offer an explanation how the Ozone layer came to be?
It has been offered but you refuse to accept it in favor of your own explanation.

Shermana · Post by **Shermana** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:06 pm

Sorry Ragna, but this thread is what it's about. So if you have a basic simple explanation that disproves what I said, post it here. Otherwise, talking about my maturity may be against the rules.

Shermana · Post by **Shermana** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:07 pm

Wyvern, please quote from that link where it says they'd be able to survive without the Ozone at such levels specifically. I've shown that NASA states it would be about 10x the radiation, since it wouldbe 6.7x at 2/3 gone. Thanks.

I can't recall anyone ever getting a sunburn from lying out at night.

And I can't recall any experiments of testing people lying out without the Ozone layer.

As for the massive radioactive and lighting power of Active Galactic Nuclei, I will look into this further and get back on this.

Either way, this issue is only about ONE verse in Genesis, not Genesis altogether. I can discuss the rest of Genesis later, but this about one particular element of it.