Ques ; Who are the Zionist ?

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Ques ; Who are the Zionist ?
Try to get a better understanding of who and what they are and what do they have to do with the jews of today !

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Being cnorman18 gave his short version of Who are the Zionist ? I'll ask the question again Who are the Zionist ?

What is YOUR answer? What answers are you trying to elicit here? What do you hope to see?

If you have another answer your more then welcome to try again ok ! I'm not playing this backward / forward game with you it just a of waste time I know you game now been reading your post .

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If you have another answer your more then welcome to try again ok ! I'm not playing this backward / forward game with you it just a of waste time I know you game now been reading your post .

Moderator comment:

Actually, it would appear to me that you are the one playing games and wasting people's time.

First, the is a debating forum, not a place to ask people to do research for you to do your homework. Secondly, cnorman18 already answered your question with a source. And it was fair to ask what your answer would be since you were the one who brought up the question.

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Ques ; Who are the Zionist ?
Try to get a better understanding of who and what they are and what do they have to do with the jews of today !

From Wikipedia (q.v.):

Zionism (Hebrew: ציונות‎, Tsiyonut) is primarily a nationalist or national liberation Jewish political movement that, in its broadest sense, has supported the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland.

Anyone who believes that Israel is a legitimate state and has a right to exist like any other state is a "Zionist." By that definition, the majority of Americans are Zionists, and of course virtually all Jews (though there are a few exceptions). There is more information at the link, but that will do for a start.

Firstly , The word Zionism . comes from the Aramic / Hebrew word Zion or Tsiyuwn . Which is a Mountain of Jerusalem . It is derived from The Root word Ziya , meaning '' To Parch , Barren , Drought Solitary Place , Wilderness '' Zion is also known in the scriptures as The City Of David ( 2Samuel 5 ; 5 - 6 ) .
And I Quote . NeverTheLess <Daw> David the beloved <Law>
Took the strong <Eer> city of <Daw> David ' The beloved .


Zionists Today consist of Jebusites ( Descendants of Libana's ( Canaan ) Third Son . Jebus [ Father of the Jebusites ] And Khazars ( Descendant of Canaan's Fourth Son - Amor [ Father of The Amorites '' Mountain Dwellers ] . Who are The German Jews ( Jebusites of Canaan ) of today . Neither of them have the right to claim Palestine as their homeland . The home of The Sons of Libana ( Canaan ) was Elbrus . Which comes from The Ashuric / Syriac word Abras , meaning '' Leper '' . Thus , the term Abracadabra Is a mystical word used in Incantaions or as A Charm To Ward Off Disesae . It was originally said as Abras Cadaver , Used to mean The Bodies Of Lepers ( Refer To '' The Holy Tablets '' Chapter Three , El Mustawathee'ya , The Scientist , Tablets Three , The Trustworthy , Verse 157 - 158 And I Quote
Thus the term Abracadabra , a mystical word has used in incantations or as a charm to ward off disease , Originally said Abras Cadaver used to mean the '' bodies of lepers '' .

;...Notice the word Lep - Rosy . Which is short for Roses , and is symbolic of '' The War Of The Roses . '' Which is a war that occurred In Europe In The 1400's Between The House Of York And The House Of Lancaster , The House Of York Had Long Used A White Rose As Its Emblem . And The House Of Lancaster Became Identified With A Red Rose .The Wars Began In 1455 A.D. With The Battle Of Saint Albans . And Ended In 1485 A.D. With The Battle Of Bosworth Field .


Now , back to the point . Libana ( Canaan ) Took His Sister / Wife Salha
( Who Was A Sumerian Moor ) . And sought refuge in The Mountains , Where The Light Was Dim . Libana's ( Canaan's ) Descendants were The Caucasians ( Carcass - Asian , Meaning '' Deteriorating Asiatics '' ) For 309 Years . Canaan , Salha And Canaan's Other 3 Wifes , An Anaqite , A Horite , And A Halaabean Flugelrod And Their Children . Along with their companions , The Halaabean Fluglrods Dwelled In The Caves Practicing All Sorts Of Vile Acts , While No One Knew That They Even Existed .


( Libana ( Canaan ) Son Of Ham And Haliyma ) . When they first went into The Caves , They had Knowledge of The Divine Commandments Of The ( Anunnaqi / Aluhum ( Genesis 26 ;5 / Koran 18; 10 , 13 ) . As time passed . The descendant of Libana ( Canaan ) Lost Consciousness of themselves and began to live a Beastly Way Of Life . They became Savages and remained in The Caucasus Mountains Unti Abraham [ Ab - ( Heart ) - Ra ( Sun Deity ) - Ham
( Kemet Or Kham - For Blackness Or Majecty ) ] ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ) Came Up Into The Mountian . ( Haliyma , mother of Libana / Canaan / Salha , sister / wife of Libana / Canaan / Jebus , son of Libana / Canaan and Shingarah / Amor , son of Libana / Canaan and Hitarah / Shingarh wife of Libana / Canaan / Hitarah , wife of Libana / Canaan ) ;...Jerusalem Was Originally Given To The Tribes Of Benjamin and Judah As An Inheritance But . The Jebusites Had Migrated There With Abraham [ Ab - ( Heart ) - Ra ( Sun Deity ) - Ham ( Kemet Or Kham - For Blackness Or Majecty ) ] ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ). And Some Of Them Were Converted To Islaam . The Tribe Of Judah Was Unable To Push Out These Cursed Descendants Of Libana / Canaan .

They Disregarded The Divine Commandments Of The Most High , Which Stated Not To Mix Their Seed With The Cursed Seed Of Libana / Canaan And Cohabited With Them Genesis 24 ; 3
Consequently They Received The Wrath Of The Most Hight .
Joshua 15 ;63 And I Quote . As for the <Yeb> Jebusites '' Desolate '' The 3rd son of canaan and the 4th son of Ham who received the curse of Albinism Leprosy , The <Yaw> Those who remain dwellers of <Yer> Jerusalem , The <Bane> Sons of <Yeh> Judah <Yaw> could not <Yaw> Dispossess them out ; But the
<Yeb> Jebusites <Yaw> Dwell remain with the <Bane> Sons of <Yeh> Judah At < Yer - oo - shaw - lah ' - im > Jerusalem to <Zeh> This <Yome> Day .


As for The Jebusites '' Desolate '' The Dweller Of Jerusalem , Sons Of Judah Could Not Dispossess Them Out ; But The Jebusites Dwell With The Sons Of Judah At Jerusalem To This Day . ''
When The Israelites Re - Entered With David , They Destroyed The Jebusites
1Chronicles 11 ; 4 - 7 ;... They were savage pagans who worshippen all kinds of idols before converting to the Relifion of Abraham [ Ab - ( Heart ) - Ra ( Sun Deity ) - Ham ( Kemet Or Kham - For Blackness Or Majecty ) ] ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ). Still they picked and chose what laws they would follow .

The Khazar Hired teacher learnt in The Scriptures from Mesopotamia and Tama -Re [ Egypt ] to teach their children The Torah and Talmud . They couldn't produce all the sounds of The Hebrew Language so they developed Yiddish . Yiddish is a mixture of Hebrew and German and The So - called Jews
( Jebusites ) of Austria , Poland , Germany , And Israel Are Descendants Of Khazar . For Those Of You Who Need Confirmation From The Evil One . I Have Provided The Following Excerpts . Zionism was founded in the 19th century by a man name Moses Hess ( 1812 - A.D. - 1875 A.D. ) . A Jebusite Rabbi And Theodor Herzl ( 1860 A.D. -1904 A.D. ) . A Journalist From Paris Moss Hess Founded The Hibbat Zion . Which Maintained More Of The Religious Aspects Of Judaism Than That Of Zionism ( Also Known As The First Congress ) . Which Was More Political Moses Hess Was A German Socialist .

Predecessor Of Moderm Zionism , And Father Of Zionist Socialism . He Was Born In Bonn . Germany


Both Groups Felt That In Order To Achieve Their Goal . Which Was To Gain A State ( Preferably Palestine ) . For The Jews ( Jebusites ) . They Would Have To Put Their Religous Aspects To The Side And Infiltrate Their Way Into Mainstream Society , Eventually Gaining World Wide Control In Both Social And Political Aspects . They Would Have To Appear As Normal And Sicial As The Rest Of The World , Instead Of Annihilating Themselves . So . You Have What Is Called The Reformed Jews .


In Revelation 13 ; 2 . It is talking about A Bear . The Bear Is Synbolic Of The Two '' Teddys '' . The First Of Which Was Theodor Herzl ( 1860 A.D. - 1904 Who Was The Founder Of Political Zionism And The Zionist Movement To Establish A Jewish Homeland . He Took The Task Of Leading Back The So-called Persecuted Jewish Masses Of The World To Palestine . The Root Of The Name Theodore Is The Greek Thehos . For '' The '' Or The Middle English '' Theos '' Which Translate To Be '' God '' This Explains Why He Thought He Could Accomplish Such A Mission .


Revelation 12 ; 2 , And I Q uote , And the <Thay> Beast <Hos> Which I Saw Was <Hom> Like To A <Par> Leopard and his <Pooce> Feet were as the <Pooce> Feet Of A < Ark - Tos Bear and his <Stom> Mouth as the <Stom> Mouth Of A <Len> Lion ; And The <Drak> Dragon <Did> Gave Him His
<Doo> Power . And His <Thes> Seat . And <Meg> Great <Ex> Authority . And The Beast Who I ( Yowkhanan Bar Zebeedee ) Saw Resembled A Leopard And His Feet Resembled The Feet Of A Bear And His Mouth As The Mouth Of A Lion And The Dragon Gave Him Power And He Has Great Authority '' Herzl was born in Budapest , Hungary , On May 2 , 1860 A.D. to a well to do family . It was Hezl's belief that the world would never accept the Jew . As long as this Nanacceptance ( Anti - Semitism ) Exist . The Jew would never be able to Co - Exist Peacefully will people of other Cultures .

He Considered the only Alternative would be to find and organize A state of their own . Althoiugh Herzl Died of a heart ailment at the age of 44 . Forty Years before establishment of The State Of Israel , It Was he who origanized The Political Force That Made It Possible For It To Become A Reality . Herzl Was Originally Buried In Vienna . But According to his wishes . His remains Were moved To Jerusalem In 1949 A.D. And Entombed On A Hill Now Known As Mt . Herzl .
The Bear Is Also Representative Of Theodore Roosevelt ( 1858 A,D, - 1919 A.D. ) . The 26th Of The United States . Theodore Roosevelt's Campaign For The Prsidency Was Successful Because He Was Backed By The Affirmation Of J.P.Morgan & Co . Of New York And Drexel & Co . Of Philadelphia Both Of These Companies Were Affilated With The House Of Rothschild And Were Companies Of The Illuminati Together Morgan And Drexel Controlled The Election And Roosevelt Became President In 1901 A.D.

He Was The First American President To Lead TheFight Against The Arabs . With TheDetermination To Prove Himself Right . He Had The U.S. Join Forces With Britain AndFrance Against Muslims For The Occupation Of Morocco .
Theodore Roosevelt was born in New York City On Octobers 27 . 1858 A.D. Of A Moderately Wealthy Family . He was known the world over as '' Teddy '' Because He Loved Bears . This Is Where The Term '' Teddy Bear '' Originated . As President Of The United States . Roosevelt Serve As Eventgul Term . He was known for his Impulsiveness and his penchant for '' Bullying '' Smaller . Helpless Nations .

It was while he was in office that The United States Acquired The Panama Canal Zone From Columbia In 1902 A.D. And Stated Construction Of The Canal In 1904 A.D. The Philippines Was Also Acquired By The United States Under Roosevelt's Supervision . Roosevelt Also Firmly Established Secert Agencies Such As The Federal Bureau Of Investigation ( F.B.I. ) And The Central Intelligence Agency ( C.I.A. ) . Although He Was In Favor Of An International Peacekeeping Organization . He Adamantly Opposed Woodrow Wilson's Proposal Of A League Of Nations ( The Predeccessor Of The United Nations ) . Theodore Roosevelt Died Suddenly In His Sleep On January 6 , 1919 A.D. The Second '' Bear '' Was A Representative Of Four - Star Army , General H . Norman Schwarzkopf . He Was Commander Of All The American And Allied Forces In Saudi Arabia .

He Was Referred To By The Nicknames '' The Bear '' Or Stormin Norman . But He Prefered Being Called The Bear '' . 1983 A.D. He Forsaw The Possiblity That The United States Might One Day Find HerSelf At '' War In The Middle East . If A So - Called Unfriendly Nation Succeeded In Taking Over A Neighbor . His Colleagues Insist That Norman Schwarzkopf Is This Generation's Mc Arthur . He Got The Tactical Brilliance Of George Smith Patton . The Strategic Insight Of Eisenhower And The Modesty Of General Omar Nelson Bradley . He Is Known To Have Such Temper Tantrums That When It Erupts . He Starts Yelling And Cursing And Throwing Things . A West Point Graduate And Old Friends Says That He Saw Himself As A Successor To Alexander The Great .

His Favorite Battles Were The Battle Of Cannae In Which Hannibal , An African - American , Son Of Hamilcar Barca . In 216 A.D. Crushed The Forces Of Rome . He's Always Had The Dream Of Leading His Country's Forces Into A Major Battle .

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Zion is often used in The Place of The Holy City , Jerusalem . When The Luciferians use The Word '' Zionism '' . Is Is A Subliminal Protection For Them . I Know You Are Anti -Zion Or Zionism . '' Then They Are Subliminally Trying To Say That You Are Against All That Is Holy For The Scriptures , The Messiah , The Ark Of The Covenant .

The Law . Even The Prence Of The Most High . So If You Oppose Them . Then Your Are Opposing All That Is Holy . Or Sanctioned By The Most High ( The Christian Plays This Game Also > If You LQQk At The Ashuric / Syriac / Arabic Word Zain . It Is The Same Word As The Aramic / HebrewWord Zion , Which Means '''Fornication , Abomination '' . But Rather TheTen First Letters Thus , Six , Six , Six , Is Zaiyn . Zaiyn . Zaiyn . Simply Zionist , The Rothchilds . Benjamin Disraeli , Moses Montefiore , Rabbi Kalisher Of Thorn , Moses Hess , Karl Marx , Arnold Ruge , Jacob Venedy , Frederrick Lassalle , Gabriel Risser , Lord Reading Isaacs , Hebret Samuel , Asher Ginsberg . Nathan Birnbaum , Theodre Hezl , Mack Norday , Chaim Weizmann , Nahum Sokolow , Louis Brandeis . Alfred Mond , Samuel Untermeyer , Leon Blum , Albert Einstein , Helen Blavatsky , Adam Weishaupt . Martinez Pasqualy , George Felt , Albert Pike , Adolph Hitler . King Saud , And Richard S . Nidxon, Thirty Of Them In All And Their Many Sons , Daughters And Devotees Zion Zion Zion , Six Six Six . Ze-lyon , TheNucleus Of Light And Fire .

The Greek Word For Zion Is Xiun Xiun Xiun = 666 .
This is how The Jebusites ( Jew ) work through subliminal suggestions . He does things like put The Holocaust incident on Television every year to remind people of their sufferings. The protect them from Anti - Zionism . The Jebusite ( Jew ) claims that The Quote In Genesis 12 ; 3 And I Quote ; '' And I will bless them that bless thee , and curse him that curseth thee ; and in thee shall all familes of the earth be blessed ; . Where Yahuwa Blessed Abraham [ Ab - ( Heart ) - Ra ( Sun Deity ) - Ham ( Kemet Or Kham - For Blackness Or Majecty ) ] ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ). Son Of Terah , And I Quote ; '' AND CURSE THOSE WHO CURSED HIM '' , Applies To Them . Christians Also believe this lie . Andfeel this is the reason that they ( Must Aid The State Of Israel , For If They Oppose Them , Then They Would Be Cursed .

This Quote Was Referring To Abraham ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ) , Only , Not The So-Called Jew . Genesis Further Tells You By Abraham , All Families Of The Earth Are Blessed . The Is Referring To The Jebusite Because The BibleAlready Tells You That They Were A Cursed Seed From Libana ( Canaan ) And A Descendant Of The Halaabean ( Flugelrods ) .

[cnorman18]

I won't ask for the source for this material; I found it.

Perhaps in your next you'll go on and tell us about the Protocols and the Illuminati. Oh, never mind, I will; this is continuing where you left off, from the same source:

Why Are The Jebusite So Interested In Jerusalem ?
Jerusalem .. They Believe , Is Where The Messiah Is Going To Appear In The End Isaiah 27 ; 13 , And I Quote ; And it shall come to pass in that day . that the great trumpet shall be blown and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria , and the outcasts in the land of Egypt , and shall worship the Lord in the holy mount at Jerusalem .
So They Think That If They Rebuild The Temple Of Solomon 2Chronicles 3; 1 , That They Will Have A Chance To The Covenant , And The Messiah Would Come For Them . My Own ReSearch Work Has Caused Me To Accept The Document Publish By Professor Nilus In Russia In 1905 A.D. As The Jewish Peril '' . And By Mr . Marsden In England In 1921 A.D. As '' The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion '' .

Are The Long Range Plan Of The ILLUMINATI Which Was Explained By Amschel Rothschild To His Associates In Frankfurt In 1773 A.D. As Recorded In Chapter 3 Of This Book . Rothschild Was Not Addressing Rabbis And Elders . He Was Addressing Bankers , Industrialists , Scientists , Economists . Etc . Mention Is Also Made Saying How It Was Intended To Used Political Zionism To Serve The Purpose Of Those Who Direct The W.R.M. In The Future , The ILLUMINATI The Document Outlines How Zionism Shall Be Aided To Read Its Objectives . Theodor Herzl Was The Founder Of The Official Zionist Movement ..

I don't think any further comment is necessary here.

Have a nice day.

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I won't ask for the source for this material; I found it.

Perhaps in your next you'll go on and tell us about the Protocols and the Illuminati. Oh, never mind, I will; this is continuing where you left off, from the same source:

Why Are The Jebusite So Interested In Jerusalem ?
Jerusalem .. They Believe , Is Where The Messiah Is Going To Appear In The End Isaiah 27 ; 13 , And I Quote ; And it shall come to pass in that day . that the great trumpet shall be blown and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria , and the outcasts in the land of Egypt , and shall worship the Lord in the holy mount at Jerusalem .
So They Think That If They Rebuild The Temple Of Solomon 2Chronicles 3; 1 , That They Will Have A Chance To The Covenant , And The Messiah Would Come For Them . My Own ReSearch Work Has Caused Me To Accept The Document Publish By Professor Nilus In Russia In 1905 A.D. As The Jewish Peril '' . And By Mr . Marsden In England In 1921 A.D. As '' The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion '' .

Are The Long Range Plan Of The ILLUMINATI Which Was Explained By Amschel Rothschild To His Associates In Frankfurt In 1773 A.D. As Recorded In Chapter 3 Of This Book . Rothschild Was Not Addressing Rabbis And Elders . He Was Addressing Bankers , Industrialists , Scientists , Economists . Etc . Mention Is Also Made Saying How It Was Intended To Used Political Zionism To Serve The Purpose Of Those Who Direct The W.R.M. In The Future , The ILLUMINATI The Document Outlines How Zionism Shall Be Aided To Read Its Objectives . Theodor Herzl Was The Founder Of The Official Zionist Movement ..

I don't think any further comment is necessary here.

Have a nice day.

SO YOU DO KNOW THE TRUTH YOU JUST RATHER LIVE A LIE , THOUGH I WOULD GO OUT WITH A BANG BEING YOU KNOW . Protocols and the Illuminati. <>AND YOU KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH

[cnorman18]

Oh, well. This is fun, but I guess I'd better be responsible. Even though I'm engaged on this thread, I'm locking it. I think we've all seen enough.

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The Torah is God's word and the Zionist are Jews that the Arabs don't like.