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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:56 pm  Abortion Racism Reply with quote

Abortions performed by white male abortionists on the wives of black men in New York State without their knowledge and written consent are racist and genocidal, and should be outlawed. Attorney General Spitzer, Senator Clinton and NYC Mike Bloomberg all support the right of white men to perform abortions on the wives and daughters of married black men without their knowledge, informed consent and written permission. Spitzer, Clinton and Bloomberg are all white racists.

Questions for discussion and debate:

Should black men, particularly Black Muslims and Christians, vote for white racists like the above, or should they demand financial reparations from such white racists, abortionists and their supporters for killing the unborn fetuses of black marriages during the past 30 years in New York State? What right does Bloomberg have to walk around with 4 Billion bucks in his pocket when he has personally justified the right of white male abortionists to indiscriminately slaughter the unborn fetuses of countless married black men without so much as a hoot, damn or care for the reproductive rights and lives of married black men in America?
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If married black men want their children aborted, the state should provide a black medical doctor for them.

That's an absurd point of view. A free and civil society does not segregate medical care of any kind.

Abortions are not medical care and America never was a a free or civil society as far as blacks are concerned. The average black family is still discriminated against by white judges and white medical doctors who are only to happy to abort black fetuses.
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BTW, as far as I know, no one has ever performed an abortion on a black man. Or a white man.

No, but white male legal supremacists and white abortionists have killed the offspring of millions of married black men and women, and married Black Muslims and Christians have the right to seek social and political reparations from white racist abortionists like bloomberg, bill and hill clinton and eliot spitzer.

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Abortion is a choice. It is murder in the first degree but it is a choice.

That is to say, it is a safe and effective means of birth control.

White male abortionists and other secular white racists don't have the right to force contraceptives or abortions on Black Muslims, Christians or Jews or even tell them what form of "birth control" to use.

Black Muslim, Christian and Jewish men have the right to legally force reparations from white secular racists who have denied them their reproductive rights for 33 years in America.

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I have to say, it is hard to take this thread with any seriousness whatsoever.

The whole thing seems to be a canard to bring abortion into an issue that is really about nothing more than what rights do or should spouses cede to each other by the act of getting married.

The racism accusation is just an effort to smear those the poster disagrees with, as per his custom. The so-called 'questions for debate' are along the lines of asking 'why won't you stop beating your wife' when no actual wife-beating has been shown to have occurred.

So how can white homosexual males who want to marry each other have any marital rights as long as Black Muslim, Christian and Jewish men don't have equal rights to sexually reproduce themselves within their own heterosexual marriage?

Don't you take the institution of marriage seriously?

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Black Muslim, Christian and Jewish men have the right to legally force reparations from white secular racists who have denied them their reproductive rights for 33 years in America.
How did this become an issue of race? Is it better when a black woman doctor performs an abortion than when a white male doctor does one?

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Black Muslim, Christian and Jewish men have the right to legally force reparations from white secular racists who have denied them their reproductive rights for 33 years in America.
How did this become an issue of race? Is it better when a black woman doctor performs an abortion than when a white male doctor does one?

Black Muslims, Christians and Jews have the right to religous abortions if they so choose, just like they have the right to be married according to their religious traditions and vows. No Black Muslim, Christian or Jewish woman should be forced to go to a secular abortion clinic where only white male abortionists are employed. If women have the unconditional choice to get medical abortions, then Black Muslim, Christian and Jewish men have the right to be present in the hospital or medical clinic where their wives are being operated on by white male abortionists. They also have the right to demand a proper Islamic, Christian or Jewish burial for their wives aborted fetus along with clergy representation at the funeral proceedings.

If state or private health plans won't pay for religious abortions, why should Black Muslims, Christians and Jews pay taxes to support secular abortions performed only by white male supremacists who favor the idea of homosexual marriages?

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Whats the matter JC? your religious tack wasn't working so you thought throwing in the race card would make it more compelling?

btw what is a religious abortion? are you thinking along the lines of the genocide of all the first born of egypt or something?

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Black Muslims, Christians and Jews have the right to religous abortions if they so choose, just like they have the right to be married according to their religious traditions and vows.

before I read Wyvern's post the first thing I ask myself was "what is a religious abortion?". Are you speaking of Black Muslims, Black Christians and Black Jews or just black Muslims and Christians and Jews?
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No Black Muslim, Christian or Jewish woman should be forced to go to a secular abortion clinic where only white male abortionists are employed.
You mean they should only go to Black Abortionist?
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If state or private health plans won't pay for religious abortions, why should Black Muslims, Christians and Jews pay taxes to support secular abortions performed only by white male supremacists who favor the idea of homosexual marriages?

I don't know why they would have a religious abortions. What does it have to do with Homosexuality?
Granted before Germany was doing it the USA was sterilizing blacks and others for population and genetic control and had not Hitler made fascism looks so bad we might have taken the same turn, after all the genocide of the Native Americans gave the US gov. some practice. But I fail to see your argument or even make sense of what your writing. This has got to be the worse thread Yet.

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The point I am making is that white male abortionists have no right to kill the unborn fetuses of married black men and women without the husband's notification and written consent. If they are Black Muslims or Christians, they and their wife have the right to choose a Black Muslim or Christian abortionist instead of being forced to go to a white man's clinic where the doctors are only too happy to kill black babies and keep the black population down.


You're still making the same ridiculous claims in a new thread now, huh?

I'll explain this very slowly, you might even get it this time.

A woman doesn't need her husband's permission, written or otherwise, to have an abortion. A woman has the right to do with her body as she chooses.

Deal with it already. What's it going to take to get this through your thick little skull?

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Black Muslims, Christians and Jews have the right to religous abortions if they so choose, just like they have the right to be married according to their religious traditions and vows.
Race and religion have nothing to do with it. Women (any race, any religion) have the right to religious or non-religious abortions, if they so choose. Although, I don't quite understand what a religious abortion is.
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No Black Muslim, Christian or Jewish woman should be forced to go to a secular abortion clinic where only white male abortionists are employed.
No woman (any race, any religion) is forced to go to any abortion clinic (secular or religious). I don't know of any abortion clinic that limits the employment to white male doctors, do you?
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If women have the unconditional choice to get medical abortions, then Black Muslim, Christian and Jewish men have the right to be present in the hospital or medical clinic where their wives are being operated on by white male abortionists.
So you have said. Why do you include "white male"? Is it that you feel that Christian, Jewish and Black Muslim men do not have the right to be present if the abortionist is a chinese female? Why don't you simply state that, "If women have the unconditional choice to get medical abortions, then men have the right to be present in the hospital or medical clinic where their wives are being operated on by abortionists." Does the removal of race and religion change the rights being demanded? You have yet to explain why it is that you feel that husbands should have rights over their wive's medical treatment.
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They also have the right to demand a proper Islamic, Christian or Jewish burial for their wives aborted fetus along with clergy representation at the funeral proceedings.
Is this what your ranting is all about? You want to have the religious rites for the aborted fetus. What kind of magic is that?

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If state or private health plans won't pay for religious abortions, why should Black Muslims, Christians and Jews pay taxes to support secular abortions performed only by white male supremacists who favor the idea of homosexual marriages?
Why is the idea of homosexual marriage in any way relevant?
if jcrawford had wrote:
If state or private health plans won't pay for religious abortions, why should Black Muslims, Christians and Jews pay taxes to support secular abortions performed only by white male supremacists?
would the ethical and moral analysis be any different?
Why is the race, gender and alleged prejudice of the abortionist relevant?
if jcrawford had wrote:
If state or private health plans won't pay for religious abortions, why should Black Muslims, Christians and Jews pay taxes to support secular abortions?
would the ethical and moral analysis be any different?
Why is the race and religion of the husband relevant?
if jcrawford had wrote:
If state or private health plans won't pay for religious abortions, why should persons of religion pay taxes to support secular abortions?
would the ethical and moral analysis be any different?

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Black Muslim, Christian and Jewish men have the right to legally force reparations from white secular racists who have denied them their reproductive rights for 33 years in America.
How did this become an issue of race? Is it better when a black woman doctor performs an abortion than when a white male doctor does one?

No, but Black Muslim, Christian and Jewish men and women have the right to choose black, white, Christian, Islamic or Jewish doctors to satisfy their abortion needs, don't they? Or is abortion only a secular white male racist monopoly?

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