For the fun of it, i thought i would give you the basis of my Utopia. This is just a rough sketch, and im not intending to go into how to get there, rather how it would be, if we would be there.
Utopia 5.0 (epsilon)
My World would consist of a one world government, with Western Europe (Including Scandinavia, exluding South-Westet such as Spain, and total exclusion of Eastern States), and Part of North America such as United States Exluding the so called ´Bible Belt´, and Canada. Australia and the Oceania area that is westernized, and Japan, South Korea.
Of course there are other areas to, but the rest would either be used as dumps or decimated.
The world population would be set to a suitable number around 500 million to 1 billion, as this gives the opportunity to give everyone equal chances and worth, and no one will suffer.
The population would either have been temporarily sterilized, or permanently depending on situation. The government would be in control of birthing and raising the children making sure they will not get such dieases such as Diabetes, Polio and similar.
To prevent a plauge such as religion to enter their mind, only proper education will be applied and a ´abortion´ system will be active up to 25 years old, as if they would start believing in things that do not exist (such as God), they would be either terminated, or sent to a camp of some sort (perhaps an Island?), where they wil lget editional education, and if they continue showing ignorance (religion or similar) they will be marked as annulled, and terminated (we do not have the possibility to make them well).
Everyone is equal in the society, except that proper education has made them aware that everyone is not equal mentally, but only ´physically´.
The government consists of the Elite (most intelligent). And could be either One man, or several. I was thinking a system such as a rotating ´Democracy´, where we have a 100 of the true elite, getting exchanged each 6 months with new. Each ´member´ already have a job, there is no difference between them and none governmental, except they have the capacity do make choices to improve the society.
If someone from the lower class (less intelligent or considered less ´worth´ in society) wants to make a conribution he is welcome to go wave it for the government. For example he thinks he has a system that could improve the World (Nation), and he only needs to show how it would work, and why it would be better. If it would, it would be implemented.
The same goes for everything, if someone have an invetion they think will improve the life and quality in someway, anyone is open to show in what way, and if it would, it would taken into production.
Money would not exist obviously, we truly need no money. As everything is ´owned´ by everyone, everything goes around, only difference is, no one has more then anyone else, or rather, no one has anything they dont need. Everyone has a healthy life, and is getting all opportune to become more intelligent and evolve all the time.
So, anything you think is bad about this sketch?
My Ideology
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Re: My Ideology
Post #41Would the year be 1984?Scrotum wrote:For the fun of it, i thought i would give you the basis of my Utopia. This is just a rough sketch, and im not intending to go into how to get there, rather how it would be, if we would be there.
Utopia 5.0 (epsilon)
My World would consist of a one world government, with Western Europe (Including Scandinavia, exluding South-Westet such as Spain, and total exclusion of Eastern States), and Part of North America such as United States Exluding the so called ´Bible Belt´, and Canada. Australia and the Oceania area that is westernized, and Japan, South Korea.
Of course there are other areas to, but the rest would either be used as dumps or decimated.
The world population would be set to a suitable number around 500 million to 1 billion, as this gives the opportunity to give everyone equal chances and worth, and no one will suffer.
The population would either have been temporarily sterilized, or permanently depending on situation. The government would be in control of birthing and raising the children making sure they will not get such dieases such as Diabetes, Polio and similar.
To prevent a plauge such as religion to enter their mind, only proper education will be applied and a ´abortion´ system will be active up to 25 years old, as if they would start believing in things that do not exist (such as God), they would be either terminated, or sent to a camp of some sort (perhaps an Island?), where they wil lget editional education, and if they continue showing ignorance (religion or similar) they will be marked as annulled, and terminated (we do not have the possibility to make them well).
Everyone is equal in the society, except that proper education has made them aware that everyone is not equal mentally, but only ´physically´.
The government consists of the Elite (most intelligent). And could be either One man, or several. I was thinking a system such as a rotating ´Democracy´, where we have a 100 of the true elite, getting exchanged each 6 months with new. Each ´member´ already have a job, there is no difference between them and none governmental, except they have the capacity do make choices to improve the society.
If someone from the lower class (less intelligent or considered less ´worth´ in society) wants to make a conribution he is welcome to go wave it for the government. For example he thinks he has a system that could improve the World (Nation), and he only needs to show how it would work, and why it would be better. If it would, it would be implemented.
The same goes for everything, if someone have an invetion they think will improve the life and quality in someway, anyone is open to show in what way, and if it would, it would taken into production.
Money would not exist obviously, we truly need no money. As everything is ´owned´ by everyone, everything goes around, only difference is, no one has more then anyone else, or rather, no one has anything they dont need. Everyone has a healthy life, and is getting all opportune to become more intelligent and evolve all the time.
So, anything you think is bad about this sketch?
It is a first class human tragedy that people of the earth who claim to believe in the message of Jesus, whom they describe as the Prince of Peace, show little of that belief in actual practice.
Re: My Ideology
Post #42Huh? How would you regulate mental suffering, emotional trauma, etc, etc?Scrotum wrote:The world population would be set to a suitable number around 500 million to 1 billion, as this gives the opportunity to give everyone equal chances and worth, and no one will suffer.
Ah... in other words: a stringent eugenics program. Have a good time skiing on that slippery slope.Scrotum wrote:The government would be in control of birthing and raising the children making sure they will not get such dieases such as Diabetes, Polio and similar.
This is such a lovely society you are proposing here. What sort of freedoms (if any) would the general populace be able to enjoy in this totalitarian regime of yours?Scrotum wrote:To prevent a plauge such as religion to enter their mind, only proper education will be applied and a ´abortion´ system will be active up to 25 years old, as if they would start believing in things that do not exist (such as God), they would be either terminated, or sent to a camp of some sort (perhaps an Island?), where they wil lget editional education, and if they continue showing ignorance (religion or similar) they will be marked as annulled, and terminated (we do not have the possibility to make them well).
Pfft. Soon they will realise that the "physical" equality is as much a mirage as any other application of the term.Scrotum wrote:Everyone is equal in the society, except that proper education has made them aware that everyone is not equal mentally, but only ´physically´.
Elsewhere you claimed:Scrotum wrote:The government consists of the Elite (most intelligent). And could be either One man, or several. I was thinking a system such as a rotating ´Democracy´, where we have a 100 of the true elite, getting exchanged each 6 months with new. Each ´member´ already have a job, there is no difference between them and none governmental, except they have the capacity do make choices to improve the society.
Let me quote Lord Action, as you seem to be ignoring history in respect to the universal "BAD": power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutelyScrotum wrote:Wrong, there is a clear Univerual "good" for us. What is not BAD for is, is good. We even had a definition of what is "good" in another topic.
Putting absolute power into the hands of a select few has never been a good idea. Why should that suddenly change? Would this "utopia" of yours even have a judicial system?
Fascinating. An economic system where all the capital is simultaneously owned by everyone, yet there are labour requirements and no means of monetary exchange?Scrotum wrote:Money would not exist obviously, we truly need no money. As everything is ´owned´ by everyone, everything goes around, only difference is, no one has more then anyone else, or rather, no one has anything they dont need. Everyone has a healthy life, and is getting all opportune to become more intelligent and evolve all the time.