Science depends on Intelligence and Design

[pshun2404]

This is NOT about ID theory or origins or about God…


Intelligent design is an essential element of the scientific method! It always starts with an idea or question by an outside intelligent force (the scientist or student of the method). What to use and how it will be tested is always the result of intelligent design. The method is (hopefully) intelligently applied, minus the narrative by which results are INTERPRETED that are also the product of an intelligence, can and often does yield a number of different data from which a best guess is often contrived (but not always). Often when things are not quite working out, the elements or conditions are altered or effected by the one designing or performing the experiment (like in the Miller/Urey experiment) in order to get closer to the pre-experiment expected or hoped for results (only an intelligence has this ability). The results are then interpreted (sometimes influenced by one's personal beliefs or previously held hypothesis) and supported by other intelligences that hold to or hope for similar pre-conceived explanations. Thus all of what we accept as science today (aside from direct and confirmed observation) is proof of the necessity of intelligent design.

All we can know depends on intelligence. Intelligence to some degree or another is the prerequisite of all knowing. All of what we experience as reality, all we can study, all conclusions and hypotheses, all depend and rely on intelligence. After all would (could) anyone deny that the Scientific method is the process taken into account and applied in designing and performing all experiments?

Isn’t strict attention to experimental design essential (including but not limited to controls)? After all, the quality and reliability of its outcome is directly affected by its construction, purpose, and in some cases even the precise timing, and so on.

What rational person would (could) deny that one of the important treatments in many experiments is often the controlled independent variable(s) and these are usually established thoughtfully (by the experimenter) before actually doing the experiment. These naturally affect the observational aspects of analyzing the data.

Is not the specific question(s) the experiment intends to answer clearly thought up prior to performing the experiment? Of course! Is not the answer or observational interpretation made in light of the intended outcome (hopefully for or against, but usually for)? Of course these things are true.

This is what I am speaking about here. The roll of intelligent design in science!

a) the scientific method was intelligently designed
b) most scientific experiment is intelligently designed
c) most conclusions result from intelligences interpreting the data (often in light of their pre-supposed hypotheses)

To design something means: to plan, make decisions, or develop specific protocols about something being made, built, or created, i,e,, to create the plans, orders of operations, steps of assembly, drawings, etc., that show how (something) will be made. : to plan and make (something) for a specific use or purpose. : to think of (something, such as a plan) : to plan (something) in your mind and then bringing it to pass. So science depends on intelligent design.

[H.sapiens]

What's interesting is that intelligent agents were the method by which the process was developed, and the vector used to allow it to persist into modernity. But it was the properties of the method itself that made it 'viable' to those intelligent agents. Namely, its ability to record observations, make predictions about reality, and explain nature.

And thus did the vector or the method inherently or innately possess these properties or are they properties that we discovered and demanded via our intelligence?

It evolved over time.

[Donray]

[Replying to post 1 by pshun2404]

I take it that you are trying to prove there must be gods? If so, what intelligence created your God?

[Bust Nak]

[Replying to post 1 by pshun2404]
You say "this is NOT about ID theory..." then pick another phrase. Intelligent design is defined as a hypothesis that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection. As such science does not depend on intelligent design at all.

[Kenisaw]

Okay! Sorry H. if that's what it appeared to be. so let me rephrase the issue in the form of a question. How much of science depends on design (we can assume only intelligent beings can do)...

None. Science depends on empirical data and evidence. Science works because the universe is constant (or at least incredibly stable over very long time periods). The stuff science uses shows no design, it only shows consistency. That's all that matters.

[Donray]

pshun2404

Since you think the universe is intelligently design and you think you are intelligent you should be able to answer the following:

What is the purpose in the grand design for black holes? Why would you create them?

Why design a system where galaxies collided with other galaxies destroying the creation?