Is Hillary Clinton "Untrustworthy?"

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Is Hillary Clinton "Untrustworthy?"

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While Bill Clinton was still governor of Arkansas, before I really even had a clear idea of who the Clinton's are, someone told me a particularly obscene Hillary Clinton joke. Why are people telling obscene jokes about this woman I am barely aware of, this woman who is after all the WIFE of a politician and not even (then) running for office herself, I wondered? That is the extent of the character assassination of Hillary Clinton that has been occurring for more than 30 years now. Why? Apparently because she has the audacity to have thoughts, ideas and opinions of her own. Clearly she is NOT the Republican ideal of what a woman and wife should be. Hillary Clinton is everything Republicans hate. An intelligent well educated AMBITIOUS woman. How dare she!

Here is a list of the various "offences" that Republicans have charged Hillary with over the years.

1. When she was first lady, she murdered White House lawyer Vince Foster and then dumped his body in a park.
2. She drove Vince Foster to commit suicide through her temper tantrums.
3. She was having an affair with Vince Foster.
4. She’s a lesbian.
5. Chelsea isn’t Bill Clinton’s child.
6. She murdered Vince Foster to cover up that she once bought a tract of undeveloped land in Arkansas and lost money.
7. She murdered Vince Foster to cover up her role in firing the White House travel department.
8. After she murdered Vince Foster, she ransacked his office in the middle of the night and stole all the documents proving her guilt.
9. When Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, she was a partner in the state’s top law firm, and it sometimes did work involving the state government.
10. She once invested in commodities futures on the advice of a friend and made $100,000, proving she’s a crook.
11. She once invested in real estate on the advice of another friend and lost $100,000, also proving she’s a crook.
12. Unnamed and unverifiable sources have told Peggy Noonan things about the Clintons that are simply too terrible to repeat.
13. The personnel murdered at Benghazi make her the first secretary of state to lose overseas personnel to terrorism — apart from Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright, George Schultz, Dean Rusk and some others.
14. Four State Department staff were murdered at Benghazi, compared with only 119 others murdered overseas under every secretary of state combined since World War II.
15. She illegally sent classified emails from her personal server, except that apparently they weren’t classified at the time.
16. She may have cynically wriggled around the email law by “technically� complying with it.
17. She once signed a lucrative book contract when she was a private citizen.
18. Donald Trump says she “should be in jail,� and he’s a serial bankrupt casino developer in Atlantic City, so he should know.
19. Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay says his “law-enforcement sources� tell him she is “about to be indicted� — and if a man once convicted of money laundering and conspiracy doesn’t have good law-enforcement sources, who does?
20. She’s a hard-left radical who wants to break up the nuclear family.
21. She’s a conservative “mousewife� who refused to break up her own family.
22. She’s in favor of single moms.
23. She refused to be a single mom.
24. When she was first lady of Arkansas, she pandered to conservative voters by dyeing her hair.
25. Before that, she totally insulted them by refusing to.
26. She’s a frump.
27. She spends too much money on designer dresses.
28. She has “cankles.�
29. She has a grating voice.
30. She yells into the microphone.
31. She spent 18 years in Arkansas and some of the people she knew turned out to be crazy rednecks and crooks.
32. She’s in the pay of the mafia.
33. She’s in the pay of the Chinese government.
34. She’s in the pay of the Wall Street banks.
35. In order to suppress the billing records from her time at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, she cleverly packed them up and took them to the White House rather than shredding them.
36. When she handed over the documents to public officials, they couldn’t find any evidence she’d committed any crimes, so she must have doctored them.
37. Congress spent tens of millions of dollars and six years investigating her investment in the Whitewater real-estate project, and, while they didn’t actually find anything, they wouldn’t have spent all that money if there weren’t something there.
38. By cleverly hiding all evidence of her crimes in the Whitewater affair, she caused Congress to waste all that taxpayers’ money.
39. When she ran for senator of New York, she was still a fan of the Chicago Cubs.
40. She once said the Clintons were thinking of adopting a child, and they didn’t follow through.
41. She was photographed holding her hand near her mouth during the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.
42. She’s got brain damage.
43. She’s old.
44. She’s really ambitious and calculating, unlike all the other people running for president.
45. She secretly supported Palestinian terrorists, Puerto Rican terrorists and Guatemalan terrorists.
46. She secretly supported a group that wants to give Maine back to the Indians.
47. She’s a secret follower of “radical prophet� Saul Alinsky.
48. She did her law degree at Yale, and it’s a well-known “socialist finishing school.�
49. When she was young, she did things to build up her résumé rather than just for their own good.
50. When Bill was president, she “allowed� him to keep people waiting.
51. She’s married to a sex addict.
52. She’s an enemy of traditional marriage.
53. She didn’t divorce her husband.
54. His philandering is her fault because she is too strong, and too weak, and too frumpy, and too fat, and too cold.
55. She’s hostile to women who fool around with her husband.
56. A divorced taxi driver in Florida told me that if Hillary is elected president, “women will take over everything.�
57. She insulted Tammy Wynette.
58. When they left the White House, she and Bill bought a big house in New York that they couldn’t afford.
59. She sometimes calls her staff during dinner, even when they’re out at a restaurant.
60. She claimed there was a “vast right-wing conspiracy� against her husband, and it turned out there was nothing but a bunch of tycoons financing private investigators, and some fake think tanks and books and news sites and stuff.
61. When she got married, she didn’t “stay at home and bake cookies.�
62. She supported the Iraq war because she’s a secret foreign-policy conservative.
63. She’s a secret foreign-policy radical with a plan to impose worldwide “radical social experimentation� through the World Bank.
64. She is secretly plotting to let children sue their parents for making them take out the garbage.
65. She looked bored during the Benghazi hearings.

And yet she is still still walking around free? In actual fact, she has never actually been charged with a crime, much less convicted of anything. One would think that anyone THIS evil would have been hung, beheaded, drawn and quartered by now.

What do the polls indicate that Hillary Clinton's biggest negative is? That she is "untrustworthy." Given all of the untrue and plainly mean spirited vilification that has been heaped on her over the years, the fact that she is still standing on the public stage says a lot about her character. Given the unprecedented level of bile thrown at her for years now, most people would have packed it in long ago.
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Monta wrote: [Replying to post 47 by Strider324]

"And yes, let's pass judgment on this 'morally bankrupt' woman that presides over a Clinton Foundation that gets a full 89% of the monies they collect directly to the people in need. That's in the face of the national average for charities, which is a dismal 75%. Yeah, let's burn this evil woman and her family at the stake.... "

You have to take her word for it.
Politicians don't lie, right?

Saudis the head choppers and worst human rights abusers
would have given her plenty and all from the goodness of their hearts.
Take her word for what? The superlative results of the Clinton Foundation?

No, that fact comes from those entities that rate charities. Both the American Institute of Philanthropy and Charity Navigator - considered the gold standard for rating charities - have given their absolute highest ratings to the CN.

The only way for the haters to continue their lies about the CN is to impugn the integrity of both of these non-partisan watchdog agencies. Would you like to try your hand at it? Perhaps you can do so without repeating those lies.
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"No, that fact comes from those entities that rate charities. Both the American Institute of Philanthropy and Charity Navigator - considered the gold standard for rating charities - have given their absolute highest ratings to the CN. "

It may be so and she might be an angel in disguise.
I've read enough of politics and wars and CIA involvments around the world
and coups of democraticaly elected governments etc. I think
the world needs to see change in America but more important, America has to change for Americans or the country will keep sliding down the plug-hole.

China, Russia and other countries now incl. Phillipines will join in support of a more peaceful world. At least it brings us some hope same as Trump, bringing some hope for a better world.

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Monta wrote: [Replying to post 50 by Strider324]


"No, that fact comes from those entities that rate charities. Both the American Institute of Philanthropy and Charity Navigator - considered the gold standard for rating charities - have given their absolute highest ratings to the CN. "

It may be so and she might be an angel in disguise.
I've read enough of politics and wars and CIA involvments around the world
and coups of democraticaly elected governments etc. I think
the world needs to see change in America but more important, America has to change for Americans or the country will keep sliding down the plug-hole.

China, Russia and other countries now incl. Phillipines will join in support of a more peaceful world. At least it brings us some hope same as Trump, bringing some hope for a better world.
Yes, the country needs change. It always has. But Trump is not the change we need. His 'change' will build an un-American isolationist wall on our southern border, either literally or figuratively. It will see the rich get richer and the poor get poorer - which is not really a change. Every President since 1945 has been a millionaire. It would tell the world that a pussy-grabbing megalomaniac that had to get a million dollars from daddy in order to get anywhere is the best choice for leader of the free world that Americans could come up with.

Thankfully, this idiots chances of winning are getting close to zero.

And - reading about allegations is hardly the same as proving they are in any way true. Certainly readers on this site would respect that.
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Strider324 wrote:It would tell the world that a pussy-grabbing megalomaniac that had to get a million dollars from daddy in order to get anywhere is the best choice for leader of the free world that Americans could come up with.
He's the best the Republicans could come up with. I'm with her.

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"And - reading about allegations is hardly the same as proving they are in any way true. Certainly readers on this site would respect that."

Strider, I read this please correct me if I am wrong.

Did yu know that US has sanctions on Syria?
I was shocked to read this considering what the country is going through.
Children are dying of cancer for the lack of medicine.
No political scoring here no tears for those children as for the little boy who was dragged out of the rubble.

I watched video of a 10yo girl hysterical because she lost her leg crying -
is my leg going to grow again. That heartbreak is multiplied 1000 times.

Political games...it is sick, it is evil. Money before people.

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Monta wrote: [Replying to Strider324]

"And - reading about allegations is hardly the same as proving they are in any way true. Certainly readers on this site would respect that."

Strider, I read this please correct me if I am wrong.

Did yu know that US has sanctions on Syria?
I was shocked to read this considering what the country is going through.
Children are dying of cancer for the lack of medicine.
No political scoring here no tears for those children as for the little boy who was dragged out of the rubble.

I watched video of a 10yo girl hysterical because she lost her leg crying -
is my leg going to grow again. That heartbreak is multiplied 1000 times.

Political games...it is sick, it is evil. Money before people.

Well of course we have State Dept sanctions against Syria. al-Assad has murdered some 9000 unarmed civilian demonstrators, and has a long and deplorable human rights record. That's why every administration for the last several decades has had sanctions, especially when Syria became a known supporter of terrorists groups.

https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/wp-con ... _Sheet.pdf

Sanctions aren't the reason that girl lost her leg. And sanctions don't keep the US from providing humanitarian aid where it is needed. Further - it is Hillary Clinton that has proposed an increase in the allowable number of Syrian refugees into the US. What does your boy Trump want to do? Build another wall?

The humanitarian efforts of Clinton seems hardly a valid reason to demonize her. But then, conservatives can rarely be bothered with facts. :(
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As I said, money before people.
There's plenty oil in Syria and multinatinationals
have big plans as they did in Iraq.

So Assad is a bad boy let's support head-choppers to help us
get rid of him.

Somebody mentioned this is a Christian forum.
Quite right and if we do not face truth because it is true
don't know who will.

Hillary or Trump? Peace to America in America.

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